2003 F 90 valve adjustment

Kanadakid

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Hi gents it has been a while sine I have posted, was having difficulties logging in and finally got straightened out.

I am just preparing to change the timing belt (even though it looks fine) at the 5 year mark. I am also going to check the valve lash with a go no go feeler gauge. I am fearing the worst relative to valve clearances.

My question is...is there an easy way to change the shim / disks without taking out the Cam shaft ?

If so, it would remove a lot pre work aniety. Not so sue that if a valave is out that I want to do that in my garage.

I have the right tools (holder/ manual and fly wheel remover) for the timing belt so I'm not sweating doing that part of the job.

Thanks


Kid
 

EAVES

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

If you need to change any shims its not a big deal if you have the Manuals and tools just follow it closly and the cams are intimidating but just take your time and remember those cams are easy to break follow the directions carefully and closly

Me and a Yamaha rep. (Ricard Silvas) done a complete powerhead swap on a 150hp last summer and i was real familiar with OHC & DOHC since i do alot of drag racing and work on just as many cars as boats and i play with the Ford Modular Engines alot and Silvas is a Great REP. as well and it went well. I was expecting Yamaha to send a complete powerhead but nope the head came first and then a shortblock assy. and they said have fun lol
 

Kanadakid

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

That is bad news. I thought there was some way to hold down the housing around the shim and pop it out.

I don't think I feel comfortable enough to take out the cam shaft if one of the valves are out. I use synthetic oil, perhaps I will be OK.


Thanks

Kid
 

EAVES

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

Ck with Rodbolt he should be able to answer this one.
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

for a beginer ill tell you a secret but you have to promise not to tell.
easiest way to check the valves is to simply remove the cam cover,reinstall the cam sprockets if removed. some F motors you have to and some you dont and I cant remember which is which.
then bring #1 to TDC compression stroke, this can be observed by the intake vales closing and the TDC #1 mark lining up. check lash for intake and exhaust on #1.
repeat for cylinders 2,3 and 4.
remember 2 and 3 come up together and 1 and 4.
so the TDC marks for 1 and 4 are the same and the same for 2 and 3.
the difference is lining the TDC mark for the cylinder that just closed the intake valve.
if lash is ok your done.
clean all the silicone sealent from the gasket and cam cover corners and carefully inspect the cam cover gasket for nicks or cuts.
if not nicked or cut it can be reused.
if while checking lash you find one tight or loose note it on your work sheet.
note the spec and actual reading.
this will be used later.
after checking all 4 cylinders and shim pad change is required the fun begins.
yes the cams break easily if care is not taken.
I watched an instructor at Kennesaw break one :).
ok now were gonna take out the cams.
for a beginner this is what I reccomend.
carefully note which cam is which.
move the crank to #1 TDC compression stroke.
carefully note the cam sprocket mark orientation, you will need it at reassembly.
remove the cam sprokets without moving the cams or crank.

carefully make notes for the cam cap orientation.
they are marked but upside down.
they MUST go back in the same orientation.
the manual is gonna make a reference to loaded and unloaded caps.
I will make it more simple but slower.
carefully loosen ALL the cap bolts in pairs 1/4 turn at a time until ALL caps are loose.
reassemble the same way,1/4 at a time on ALL cap bolts.
Ill reitterate, loosen both top cam cap bolts 1/4 turn, then #2 then #3 and so on and so on, then go back to the top and do another 1/4 turn and repeat for the lower caps until ALL caps are loose.
my suggestion when removing cams is to trim the engine up about 15 to 20 degrees.
the oil film normally will hold the shims in place but a little gravity wont hurt.
now with the cams carefully laid aside use a good evaporative solvent like carb cleaner or brake cleaner or acetone and carefully clean the shims without removing them.
now mark the shims with a magic marker in order 1-8 ex and 1-8 intake.
this will aide incase a shim falls so you know where it goes

remove any out of spec shims, measure and do the math for the proper thickness of the replacement shim.
if your recorded lash was loose then a thicker pad will be required if tight a thinner pad.
install shims as required and start reassembling.
its actually not as hard as it looks.
when reinstalling the cams make sure the sprocket marks line up correctly BEFORE installing the cam caps.
this is an interference engine. if the cams are not installed correctly you can bend a valve or break a cam when tightening the caps.
magic markers are wonderful things.
once its all reassembled with the plugs still out carefully rotate the flywheel two turns, if it stops dont force it as you may have something off and a valve is contacing a piston.
if it rotates 2 turns and the TDC mark lines up and the sproket marks line up and the lash is now correct your done.
button it up and have a cool refresing beverage.
I can do it in just under 2 hours but I have seen one once and I stayed at a holiday inn.
 

Kanadakid

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

Thank you kindly boys. Your process / detailed procedure provided is more detailed than the manual in the sense that it provides for the "Awe Sh--s". Those are good to know.

I'm hoping that all are in spec. But we will see.

Would you do the timing belt first then check the valves or do the valve check first ?

Rodbolt, how far is Salvo from where you are ? I will be there in August.


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rodbolt

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

salvo is 20 miles or so down the beach from me.
check valve lash first.
bring #1 to TDC,check the cam sprocket marks, remove the tensioner and sprockets,then the cam cover then reinstall the tensioner and sprockets to be able to turn the engine over while checking lash.
if lash is ok then change the belt , if not continue adjusting lash.
the key is anytime the tensioner or cam sprockets are removed is to insure the TDC mark on the flywheel is ligned up,#1 is on compression stroke and the sprocket alighnment marks are properly oriented.
 

Kanadakid

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

Rodbolt,

I will come down and introduce my self to you in August when i am there.

Thanks for your help. We are friends with Bud who works at the fishing hole and Ron who owns the jet ski rental place.


Don
 

Kanadakid

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

Rod,

On second read :

remove the tensioner and sprockets,then the cam cover then reinstall the tensioner and sprockets to be able to turn the engine over while checking lash.

Why do I need to remove the tensioner and sprokets to check the valve lash.
I thought I would remove the plugs, so I could turn the engine to TDC. Take off valve cover and check 1 & 4 the turn the engine to check 2 &3.

If OK, then go back to TDC and remove the flywheel and just the tensioer, replace belt and put the tensioer back on.
Put the flywheel back and turn engine 2 x.

No ?



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Kanadakid

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Re: 2003 F 90 valve adjustment

What size is the flywheel nut? It is bigger than 1 1/4 inch.


Thanks

KId
 
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