Soda blast or not?

brielly

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I'm hoping some of you can help me with this decision as Ive received numerous opinions. The boat is a 78 v20 with what looks like numerous coats of bottom paint the has come off in some areas, and is flaking in many other spots. Some of it actually appears to be on pretty good. One yard recomended geting it soda blasted and gave me the number of someone they trust. After speaking with the soda blaster he suggested not soda blasting now because the hull would most likely have high moisture content and new paint would not adhere well to it. He said wait until the fall and let it dry out over the winter. What do you guys think? Is this good advice? I wasn't really looking forward to paying for the soda blasting at the moment anyway. Although scraping/sanding while on the trailer doesn't seem like much fun either.
 

arks

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Re: Soda blast or not?

I'm currently in the midst of a similar project on my 34. The paint on mine had the same description as yours- some peeling some tight, lots of layers.

Originally I was going to have the marina blast my hull. They are a certified "Clean Marina" and ONLY do it in the early spring here because their permit only allows a few weeks each year for blasting. In my case, the recession forced me to cancel the work and do it myself.
Here's my story:
I tried chemical stripper (Peel-Away) but it only took off about half the layers and was way too expensive, so after some experimenting I found that a dull razor scraper would remove all layers with meduim pressure. You're right- it's NO FUN. I worked for 7 straight days, 10-14 hours each day to get it clean. LOTS of effort but the cost was minimal. I discovered the original gelcoat had never been prep-sanded, which I believe was the root of my problem. My boat is 25 years old BTW.
This past weekend I completely sanded the bottom with a vibrating pad sander and 60 grit paper. The marina owner told me most people don't use heavy enough sandpaper and 60 worked well. I tried emery cloth but for some reason it didn't cut nearly as well as the paper. It's now perfectly white with no sign of bottom paint!
My next job is to fill and fair any hull imperfections. I'll be using Marine-Tex. With any luck this step will be done in 1 weekend and ready for the epoxy barrier coat, which requires a very specific procedure to get it right.
After the barrier coat, I plan to apply 2 coats of alabative antifouling paint (Pettit Ultma SR). With good weekend weather I hope to be in the water by (or just after) Memorial Day.
I never plan on doing this again, that's for sure!
 

Willyclay

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Re: Soda blast or not?

I was able to use my power washer to get several layers of paint off my boat. However, residual moisture was not a consideration because it was aluminum. Good luck!
 

Edko

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Re: Soda blast or not?

I'm in the middle of doing what Arks is doing and it is indeed no fun, but much cheaper. However, I am using 60-80 grit pads on an orbital for most of it.
 

brielly

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Re: Soda blast or not?

Thankd for he replies. If the boat was on blocks I'd attempt it myself but being on the trailer just makes it that much harder. I found a guy that will pull it off the trailer, scrape and paint it for $280. I'll deal with the soda blasting come fall when hopefully I'll have more $$$
 

traderdavel

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Re: Soda blast or not?

Sorry I may be ignorant in this area - but how bad does it have to be? Couldn't you just sand the affected area? What is the reason for doing the whole boat? Is it possible it didn't adhere well to that one area?
 

brielly

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Re: Soda blast or not?

I tested an area and i think the paint thats on their now is ablative in which case it may come off with a pressure washer, scraping and sanding. If the guy doing the work is able to get it pretty smooth that way then i will skip the soda blasting. We'll see
 
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