Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

[Nandy]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

OK, that is fine, you dont have to admit to guilt even though most of the drivers very well know they did break the law. The trooper dont have to show you the radar, at least not in NC or VA, neither they have to answer if the radar was calibrated or when has the last time he certified. You ask all that in court. BTW, I have been to court on a speeding ticket only once. The judge asked every Trooper if the radar has been calibrated that morning, if he was properly certified and a few more questions just to set it straight that there was no loose end. Pretty much the only person that walked out of there with the ticket revoked was the guy that claimed his speedometer was faulty and brought some documentation to court. Everyone else either pleaded guilty or the judge found them guilty. Those that asked had the option to go to that class and keep the ticket out of the record which was not an option for me as I had the class before. I was like 3 month for the 2 year in which they would let me take it again.
I remember this very well dressed gentleman. You could see by the way that he carried himself that he thought he was getting out of it. He went around to explain how was it impossible to the trooper to tell who was he clocking, how the angle this, the other vehicle block that, yada, yada. The judge ask the trooper if he was sure he clock the defendant vehicle, the trooper said yes, the judge said, "Guilty" and set the ticket fine. That guy face was worth a million dollars... I will venture to say that the majority, the huge majority that gets a speeding ticket was actually speeding.

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

If you get pulled over for speeding and have a radar detector, the fine should be doubled or tripled as your intent was to break the law in the first place.

If I have a gun in my car was my intent to murder?

That's an awfully broad brush to paint with. I got my radar detector to help keep me aware of my speed, as my truck does not have cruise control and holding within 5mph of the speed limit is hard after a couple of hours. If it beeps it reminds me to glance down and make sure I'm ok.

I've been pulled over one time, for "not completing the turn" on a yellow light. It was because I was going to slow, had I been hauling tail I would have made it. I've never had a speeding ticket and I've had a detector for about 10 years. I do own a radar gun myself and know its weaknesses, so I know they are no good for truly preventing tickets for the real leadfoot driver.

 

[Gregk]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

And, is there a good answer that will get me out of one?

"I have diarrhea!"

 

[wildmaninal]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

You realize how old that post is WITF? I hear ya though. I posted I was doing 105 in an earlier post actually I recall now that I was doing 120 or so like a goof, but as I said I wasn't pulled over. LOL GregK

 

[Fish n Geer]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Years ago i had a cop give me a speeding ticket.Said i was doing 47 in a 40.I knew i wasnt going that fast at least not by my speedo.Well you know you aint gonna argue your way out.The next day i get a call from the police station saying to tear up that ticket and disregard it.Turned out the cops radar was not calibrated properly.You have no idea how good it felt to rip that ticket up

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

I'm sure glad I drive at night now.
Lot less traffic etc.
Like I said, why get in a hurry.
If where your going ain't there when you get there, it wasn't worth going to anyway.
Setting the speed limits higher are the dumbest thing the state/s can do.
If you want them to run 70, set it at 65 and allow them to run 70 without stopping them.
If over 70, pour it on them.

 

[Caveman Charlie]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

OK, that is fine, you dont have to admit to guilt even though most of the drivers very well know they did break the law. The trooper dont have to show you the radar, at least not in NC or VA, neither they have to answer if the radar was calibrated or when has the last time he certified. You ask all that in court. BTW, I have been to court on a speeding ticket only once. The judge asked every Trooper if the radar has been calibrated that morning, if he was properly certified and a few more questions just to set it straight that there was no loose end. Pretty much the only person that walked out of there with the ticket revoked was the guy that claimed his speedometer was faulty and brought some documentation to court. Everyone else either pleaded guilty or the judge found them guilty. Those that asked had the option to go to that class and keep the ticket out of the record which was not an option for me as I had the class before. I was like 3 month for the 2 year in which they would let me take it again.
I remember this very well dressed gentleman. You could see by the way that he carried himself that he thought he was getting out of it. He went around to explain how was it impossible to the trooper to tell who was he clocking, how the angle this, the other vehicle block that, yada, yada. The judge ask the trooper if he was sure he clock the defendant vehicle, the trooper said yes, the judge said, "Guilty" and set the ticket fine. That guy face was worth a million dollars... I will venture to say that the majority, the huge majority that gets a speeding ticket was actually speeding.

I hope you understand I'm not disagreeing with you or am I trying to get into a fight. I'm just saying what I learned in that old NMA magazine. This was in the days before the INTERNET. And, back when the speed limit in every road in the US was set a maximum of 55 MPH. That really sucked. The cops made a lot of money off speeders in those days. I once got 3 tickets in a year. That made me a habitual violator and I had to go to court. The judge said if I get another one he was going to give me 30 days in jail. My tickets were for going 61 , 61, and 62MPH. AND, that last one was on the interstate. O lost all respect for police and judges back then and they have never done anything to win me back. Anyway, that is when I joined that National Motorist Association. But, I never did get another ticket. (Well, not for 15 year anyway) I just quit driving down state highways and learned all the back roads!!! much more fun and better sceneary anyway. I've only gotten that one ticket in the 24 years since then.

In MN they do have to show you the speed if you ask. And, if they don't want to tell you the numbers on the radar thing you are suppose to politely ask them to write that on the ticket.And, if the guy the judge had found guilty had wanted to he can appeal the decision. Then when the prosecuting attorney gets involved plea bargain a lesser fine. This is all in theory anyway.

In MN there is no driving class like some states have. AND, most importantly of all in MN there is no law saying you even have to have a speedometer. The speedo's broke excuse don't work here. You have to obey the law broken speedometer or not.

 

[Gregk]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

My tickets were for going 61 , 61, and 62MPH. AND, that last one was on the interstate.

Holly crap!! That's calling it kinda close!!!!

 

[Caveman Charlie]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

That's how it was in the early 80's Ever heard the old song called "I can't drive 55" ? Don't remember who sang it.

 

[Nandy]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Sammy haggar sang that song. I dont think you are trying to get in a fight, not for a second. I understand your point and I respect it just like you are respecting mine. We all can talk like that without getting out of line, at least we should.

 

[Matt S]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Wow old post..but for the recent replies:
If you think owning a radar detector should mean an automatic ticket, or are only owned by excessive speeders; or that just taking it and fighting it later then please read this. My detector saved me a false ticket, but also got me scratched paint that was only 7 days old while driving to a car show on the east coast with my wife. Lukily I was able to power buff most of it out after the trip except the claw marks in the fiberglass.

The only time, ever, in my 18 years of driving that I've been pulled over was in South Dakota, eastbound just minutes outside of Rapid City where we stayed the night and saw Mt Rushmore that morning, Memorial Day. I knew where the cop was about 4 miles before I passed him. Yes I was doing 70 when the detector alerted in the 65 zone (who really has NEVER gone 5 over). I settled in the right lane immediatly at 60mph, and watched 2 miles pass on the odometer, and listened to the signal strength get stronger, when I clearly saw the source of the signal in the center divide. A South D Policeman.

He pulled out after someone else who SLAMMED on their brakes, and when his bumper was equal with my door he slowed and settled in behind me for a while. Then the limit changed to 75mph and he started tailgating me so I reset my cruise at 70mph, from 60. Jeeze BIG RIGS were flying by me probably doing 80!! Instantly my detector indicated Ka band at full strength and shortly thereafter his lights came on and I'm being pulled over.

He said I was leading a pack of speeders doing 70 in the 65 zone (that ended 3 miles ago), and asks me "why are you in such a hurry so far from home?". So I told him that I was not speeding. I was between X and Y car in the right lane when I passed him, with Z truck passing me quickly in the left lane. That I knew where he was 4 miles before I passed him because he obviously left his radar on constantly, and that I very clearly was not speeding in the 75 zone that I now sit pulled over in, yet my radar detector went off when I accelerated to 70mph in the 75 zone after I felt he was driving too close.. He leans down to see the detector that really is just as visible from behind the car so........

He questioned my speedometer accuracy, not being "factory". I replied that any inaccuracies are remedied with a mechanics certificate, and then reached into the glovebox and handed him the certificate from the Washington State Patrol that is only 6 weeks old showing that my speedometer is within .05% from 15mph to 100mph. I joke and say I'm pretty sure I wasn't going faster than 100 when you're lights came on. He sighs and asks for the usual. Then he comes back with a warning, but says I need to come sit with him in his patrol car while he completes it.

The doors close and he says I look nervous and that usually means someone is hiding something so if I tell him where the drugs are now he'll let me off easy. And there I sit for the next 2 hours as he proceeds to tell my wife things I never said, and tell me things she never said. He actually told my wife that he could get her to a safe house because I admitted to being a drug dealer back in his car and I want help. He told me she said she doesn't know where we're going and I scare her.

When he's got nothing, not even a ticket, I am frustrated because he won't take my offer to unload my car so I can get on my way. He's intent on me admitting something that I did not do or do not have, with very elaborate questions intended to get me to admit to something. I am dancing with him and let him know that my occupation, age (clearly on my license I point out), wealth, background, and aquaintances ("any friends do drugs"?) have no bearing on the speeding accusation. Clearly put "you won't search my car when I offer, you have already written and handed me a warning, yet you won't let me go; and there's half a squadron of cars behind you. What's going on???"

He's got nothing. And with a parade of 5 other patrol cars behind me hours later on the freeway, he gets the drug dog out and snaps his fingers above my car so the dog jumps on it and his long toe nails go twice around on my fresh paint and fiberglass front and rear sections. INTO the fiberglass.

I was targeted specifically because I was from out of town and less likely to fight it, and every cop I passed tailgated me for at least 10 miles when I passed them with my cruise at 5 below. At a couple rest stops I warned others from out of town and every one of them either had what they thought were fake tickets and/or had been accused of drugs also. One officer cleaned out a minivan from California, full of kids, claiming the parents looked like Meth heads, then got a $300 ticket for 10 over which he said he was given by a cop on the exit ramp when they got off to get lunch. Said he was doing 70 just 800 feet before the stop sign there. Easy money

How else would YOU have handled it.???? What about that guy who was doing 62 in a 60 and got a ticket? Woudn't you have liked to know someone was up there? Even with laser it takes a couple seconds to lock, more than enough time to tap the brakes to get down 5mph and avoid renegate cops.

 

[Caveman Charlie]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Wow old post..but for the recent replies:
If you think owning a radar detector should mean an automatic ticket, or are only owned by excessive speeders; or that just taking it and fighting it later then please read this. My detector saved me a false ticket, but also got me scratched paint that was only 7 days old while driving to a car show on the east coast with my wife. Lukily I was able to power buff most of it out after the trip except the claw marks in the fiberglass.

The only time, ever, in my 18 years of driving that I've been pulled over was in South Dakota, eastbound just minutes outside of Rapid City where we stayed the night and saw Mt Rushmore that morning, Memorial Day. I knew where the cop was about 4 miles before I passed him. Yes I was doing 70 when the detector alerted in the 65 zone (who really has NEVER gone 5 over). I settled in the right lane immediatly at 60mph, and watched 2 miles pass on the odometer, and listened to the signal strength get stronger, when I clearly saw the source of the signal in the center divide. A South D Policeman.

He pulled out after someone else who SLAMMED on their brakes, and when his bumper was equal with my door he slowed and settled in behind me for a while. Then the limit changed to 75mph and he started tailgating me so I reset my cruise at 70mph, from 60. Jeeze BIG RIGS were flying by me probably doing 80!! Instantly my detector indicated Ka band at full strength and shortly thereafter his lights came on and I'm being pulled over.

He said I was leading a pack of speeders doing 70 in the 65 zone (that ended 3 miles ago), and asks me "why are you in such a hurry so far from home?". So I told him that I was not speeding. I was between X and Y car in the right lane when I passed him, with Z truck passing me quickly in the left lane. That I knew where he was 4 miles before I passed him because he obviously left his radar on constantly, and that I very clearly was not speeding in the 75 zone that I now sit pulled over in, yet my radar detector went off when I accelerated to 70mph in the 75 zone after I felt he was driving too close.. He leans down to see the detector that really is just as visible from behind the car so........

He questioned my speedometer accuracy, not being "factory". I replied that any inaccuracies are remedied with a mechanics certificate, and then reached into the glovebox and handed him the certificate from the Washington State Patrol that is only 6 weeks old showing that my speedometer is within .05% from 15mph to 100mph. I joke and say I'm pretty sure I wasn't going faster than 100 when you're lights came on. He sighs and asks for the usual. Then he comes back with a warning, but says I need to come sit with him in his patrol car while he completes it.

The doors close and he says I look nervous and that usually means someone is hiding something so if I tell him where the drugs are now he'll let me off easy. And there I sit for the next 2 hours as he proceeds to tell my wife things I never said, and tell me things she never said. He actually told my wife that he could get her to a safe house because I admitted to being a drug dealer back in his car and I want help. He told me she said she doesn't know where we're going and I scare her.

When he's got nothing, not even a ticket, I am frustrated because he won't take my offer to unload my car so I can get on my way. He's intent on me admitting something that I did not do or do not have, with very elaborate questions intended to get me to admit to something. I am dancing with him and let him know that my occupation, age (clearly on my license I point out), wealth, background, and aquaintances ("any friends do drugs"?) have no bearing on the speeding accusation. Clearly put "you won't search my car when I offer, you have already written and handed me a warning, yet you won't let me go; and there's half a squadron of cars behind you. What's going on???"

He's got nothing. And with a parade of 5 other patrol cars behind me hours later on the freeway, he gets the drug dog out and snaps his fingers above my car so the dog jumps on it and his long toe nails go twice around on my fresh paint and fiberglass front and rear sections. INTO the fiberglass.

I was targeted specifically because I was from out of town and less likely to fight it, and every cop I passed tailgated me for at least 10 miles when I passed them with my cruise at 5 below. At a couple rest stops I warned others from out of town and every one of them either had what they thought were fake tickets and/or had been accused of drugs also. One officer cleaned out a minivan from California, full of kids, claiming the parents looked like Meth heads, then got a $300 ticket for 10 over which he said he was given by a cop on the exit ramp when they got off to get lunch. Said he was doing 70 just 800 feet before the stop sign there. Easy money

How else would YOU have handled it.???? What about that guy who was doing 62 in a 60 and got a ticket? Woudn't you have liked to know someone was up there? Even with laser it takes a couple seconds to lock, more than enough time to tap the brakes to get down 5mph and avoid renegate cops.

I went through something similar in SD. Cop said he pulled me over because my exhaust was to loud. Even wrote me a ticket for it. Problem is in SD it's up to each city to set the noise ordnance. There is no loud exhaust law for in the middle of no where.

By the was your cops name was not something like officer engler,eingler or ingler or something like that was it?

 

[Caveman Charlie]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Wow old post..but for the recent replies:
If you think owning a radar detector should mean an automatic ticket, or are only owned by excessive speeders; or that just taking it and fighting it later then please read this. My detector saved me a false ticket, but also got me scratched paint that was only 7 days old while driving to a car show on the east coast with my wife. Lukily I was able to power buff most of it out after the trip except the claw marks in the fiberglass.

The only time, ever, in my 18 years of driving that I've been pulled over was in South Dakota, eastbound just minutes outside of Rapid City where we stayed the night and saw Mt Rushmore that morning, Memorial Day. I knew where the cop was about 4 miles before I passed him. Yes I was doing 70 when the detector alerted in the 65 zone (who really has NEVER gone 5 over). I settled in the right lane immediatly at 60mph, and watched 2 miles pass on the odometer, and listened to the signal strength get stronger, when I clearly saw the source of the signal in the center divide. A South D Policeman.

He pulled out after someone else who SLAMMED on their brakes, and when his bumper was equal with my door he slowed and settled in behind me for a while. Then the limit changed to 75mph and he started tailgating me so I reset my cruise at 70mph, from 60. Jeeze BIG RIGS were flying by me probably doing 80!! Instantly my detector indicated Ka band at full strength and shortly thereafter his lights came on and I'm being pulled over.

He said I was leading a pack of speeders doing 70 in the 65 zone (that ended 3 miles ago), and asks me "why are you in such a hurry so far from home?". So I told him that I was not speeding. I was between X and Y car in the right lane when I passed him, with Z truck passing me quickly in the left lane. That I knew where he was 4 miles before I passed him because he obviously left his radar on constantly, and that I very clearly was not speeding in the 75 zone that I now sit pulled over in, yet my radar detector went off when I accelerated to 70mph in the 75 zone after I felt he was driving too close.. He leans down to see the detector that really is just as visible from behind the car so........

He questioned my speedometer accuracy, not being "factory". I replied that any inaccuracies are remedied with a mechanics certificate, and then reached into the glovebox and handed him the certificate from the Washington State Patrol that is only 6 weeks old showing that my speedometer is within .05% from 15mph to 100mph. I joke and say I'm pretty sure I wasn't going faster than 100 when you're lights came on. He sighs and asks for the usual. Then he comes back with a warning, but says I need to come sit with him in his patrol car while he completes it.

The doors close and he says I look nervous and that usually means someone is hiding something so if I tell him where the drugs are now he'll let me off easy. And there I sit for the next 2 hours as he proceeds to tell my wife things I never said, and tell me things she never said. He actually told my wife that he could get her to a safe house because I admitted to being a drug dealer back in his car and I want help. He told me she said she doesn't know where we're going and I scare her.

When he's got nothing, not even a ticket, I am frustrated because he won't take my offer to unload my car so I can get on my way. He's intent on me admitting something that I did not do or do not have, with very elaborate questions intended to get me to admit to something. I am dancing with him and let him know that my occupation, age (clearly on my license I point out), wealth, background, and aquaintances ("any friends do drugs"?) have no bearing on the speeding accusation. Clearly put "you won't search my car when I offer, you have already written and handed me a warning, yet you won't let me go; and there's half a squadron of cars behind you. What's going on???"

He's got nothing. And with a parade of 5 other patrol cars behind me hours later on the freeway, he gets the drug dog out and snaps his fingers above my car so the dog jumps on it and his long toe nails go twice around on my fresh paint and fiberglass front and rear sections. INTO the fiberglass.

I was targeted specifically because I was from out of town and less likely to fight it, and every cop I passed tailgated me for at least 10 miles when I passed them with my cruise at 5 below. At a couple rest stops I warned others from out of town and every one of them either had what they thought were fake tickets and/or had been accused of drugs also. One officer cleaned out a minivan from California, full of kids, claiming the parents looked like Meth heads, then got a $300 ticket for 10 over which he said he was given by a cop on the exit ramp when they got off to get lunch. Said he was doing 70 just 800 feet before the stop sign there. Easy money

How else would YOU have handled it.???? What about that guy who was doing 62 in a 60 and got a ticket? Woudn't you have liked to know someone was up there? Even with laser it takes a couple seconds to lock, more than enough time to tap the brakes to get down 5mph and avoid renegate cops.

I went through something similar in SD. Cop said he pulled me over because my exhaust was to loud. Even wrote me a ticket for it. Problem is in SD it's up to each city to set the noise ordnance. There is no loud exhaust law for in the middle of no where.

By the was your cops name was not something like officer engler,eingler or ingler or something like that was it?

 

[drewmitch44]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

I like when the cop asks "do you know how fast you were going?". And you say to him "I dont know, my spedometer dosent go up that high!". One time i had to run into the bank real quick downtown where i live and its like the whole paralell park think like any city. Well i saw a space but there was a sign in front of it that said "FINE FOR PARKING". I only had to run in and drop off a deposit so i parked there real quick ran in and when i came out there was a lady cop on foot writing me a ticket. So i acted like i didnt see her and started to get in my car and she starts talking to me about parking there and why she has to write the ticket to me that day for parking there. I looked at her and said "I dont understand what did I do wrong?" She pointed at the sign. I looked at the sign and said "I know thats why I parked here whats the problem?" She didnt think it was all that funny. I took it to the common plea court a month later and was trying to get the fine reduced and i explained to the Judge that i didnt understand the ticket the sign clearly said "FINE FOR PARKING so i parked there since it was fine for parking". The judge actually got a kick out of it and let me go without the fine.

 

[dave11]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Years ago right after I got out of the service, I bought a brand new Triumph Bonniville. I was going through our little village on a four lane divided US highway as fast as I could. Some cop was taking pictures in a friends driveway. I was going fast enough that I would have literally been out of town before he could start the car. He stayed where he was. That night the chief of police called and told me he would appreciate it if I would slow down going through the village. I did.

 

[Caveman Charlie]

Re: Is there a reason you were exceeding the speed limit?

Years ago right after I got out of the service, I bought a brand new Triumph Bonniville. I was going through our little village on a four lane divided US highway as fast as I could. Some cop was taking pictures in a friends driveway. I was going fast enough that I would have literally been out of town before he could start the car. He stayed where he was. That night the chief of police called and told me he would appreciate it if I would slow down going through the village. I did.

Ah, the good old days. They don't do that sort of thing anymore. At least not around here.