OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Bubba1235

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Maybe its me but, looking at the drawings of a OMC Cobra SX I don't quite see how oil is pumped to the upper gear case. WHat am I not seeing?
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

If you have one apart you would probably see the passages where the oil goes.

All these drives circulate oil. The gears move it around.
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

WEll, I'll back up.....I'm not so sure that the oil itself "circulates" per se', (although I think it does)

The oil gets to the top when you pump it in from the bottom. If you produce metal chips from damage or otherwise, those chips WILL settle to the bottom and (hopefully) be attracted to the magnetic plugs.

If damaged top gears and bearings produce a LOT of chips those chips do find their way to the bottom gears and bearings..... requiring the whole drive to be disassembled.

Is this where you're going with this?
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

(By the way, I got all the specs on the bearings and then found the correct cross referance and bought them at my local bearing house from the same manufacture. MUCH CHEAPER!!)


Yeah I would have done the same thing. Bearings are bearings. OMC did not make their own bearings. They sourced them from Timken, and other companies.

I think if you had a failure in the drive that was catastrophic and you don't inspect the other parts inside, it's just a gamble if you just fix what you see and put it back together without looking at the other moving parts.

The oil DOES circulate or move around to a certain degree......Otherwise it wouldn't all be the same color after being in there a while. And if you get a small amount of water in the oil. It all turns to "chocolate"
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

If you look close at the verticle driveshaft you'll find the oil galley, the driveshaft is the path of oil between the upper and lower gearsets, it is hollow.
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Now I am still trying to figure out how the heck oil is pumped to these bearings and gears. When I took it apart the bearings and gears had oil on them but there wasn't any oil to speak of in the upper case so I am assuming it gets pumped to them from the lower case and drains back down with gravity. I don't want to miss something and end up with no oil getting to these bearings and gears.

Well.....that's different. Oil is NOT "pumped" up there (while running). Enough oil is "pumped' in there by you to "fill" the drive so that those gears and bearings are submerged.....Which is why there's a dipstick up on top. (#13) below. (that's a 96 SX below)


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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Basically temperature and gear movement is what moves the oil from top to bottom, bottom to top. How, I don't know or even care. It does. The point is, it does. If there are shavings in the upper or lower, they will go to the other half.

I have to ask, is this the OMC from your other thread on plastigage http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=321789
If it is, forget the words OMC. It's all Volvo insides. I sure hope you have an OEM manual and not some of that aftermarket junk if you are trying to make the drive so it will last longer than one season.
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Sounds like you found a wise internet mechanic .................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

I don't think the oil level is that high but who knows. Bottom line seems to be it wasn't me and blindness, there is no pump. You think that shocked me, I was even more shocked to see there is no raw water pump in it!


Well it has to be high enough to read with the dipstick......:rolleyes:

It doesn't appear that the one depicted above has a Raw water pump either.

Don can correct me if I'm wrong but I think all the SX's had engine driven raw pumps.
(Hey Don, I was in Ketchikan on MON. It hasn't changed much!)
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

(Hey Don, I was in Ketchikan on MON. It hasn't changed much!)

Green with envy ............... I miss it!!! :( :( :(


Don can correct me if I'm wrong but I think all the SX's had engine driven raw pumps.

ALL Volvo engines used engine driven raw water pumps. None of the drive have ever had pumps in them.
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Green with envy ............... I miss it!!! :( :( :(




ALL Volvo engines used engine driven raw water pumps. None of the drive have ever had pumps in them.

Well, I'll be there next Mon and Wed too! Actually EVERY Mon and Wed this month! I was supposed to be there today but.....I was sick:(
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

When you get back to KTN, head out to Lighthouse Marine, talk to Mike and Danny, tell them Don (a worthless mechanic that used to work there) sent you.

Sorry Bubba, total hijack :redface:
 

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Re: OMC SX Cobra - How does oil circulate to top?

Just for the record, what were the part numbers and manufactur ,Timken,
for the bearings. When I lubed the '96 gimbal. I noticed a slight stick to the bearing while turning the shaft.. so I may have to replace them next time..Thanks

1996 Seaswirl 180 ford 5.0 SX
 
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