NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

BentInFL

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I cannot seem to find any hard evidence that when a boat repair facility quotes you a repair and you verbally agree to it, then they make the repair but rack up twice as much labor time claiming that they ran into issues, never called me to approve and then charge me almost double at the end bill. I have my boat at a marina in Englewood, FL. Do I have any legal claims? Do I need to pay the bill in full if they hold my boat hostage? I have scanned the Motor Vehicle laws and called many many FL divisions and they all say the same thing...boats are NOT motor vehicles and the Motor Vehicle Repair Law stating a customer's signature is required DOES NOT APPLY. Is there any kind of "vessel" laws that exist for repair facilities ripping consumer's off?

Can anyone help me find an actual printed law or am I just screwed in this situation?

FYI: I have already called the marina many times and they will not adjust the price. I am currently working with the Manager but I am getting nowhere fast. Thank you in advance.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

Consult the Better Business B and or a real lawyer locally.
 

BumbleBeeTuna

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

So there was no signed work order or agreement?

Did you sign any agreements to use their facilities?
 

BentInFL

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

I signed a "storage agreement" with them but that is all.
 

BentInFL

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

Thanks to both Bob VT and BumbleBeeTuna for sending me a reply. I cannot believe that in a MAJOR boating State that I cannot find any recourse for these kind of criminals that protect consumers.
 

BumbleBeeTuna

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

Does your storage agreement discuss them servicing your boat in any way?

I am not sure of the recourse you may have but if no written agreement was made it is your word against theirs, and they have your boat.

I would assume with very little knowledge on the subject that your only recourse is to pay the bill to get your boat away from them. If you have substantial proof in the form of estimates from other shops, you could possibly pursue small claims against them.

I'm just guessing here because like you, I do not have a thorough understanding of consumer/service laws in Florida.

If you do decide to to pay the bill, I would demand a full itemized list of all repairs made and the reasons for each repairs (before you hand them the money). Make sure each item has its own value.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: NEED HELP Boat Repair Quote vs Actual Charge in Florida

An estimate is an estimate, not a flat rate. Very few repairs to a boat, or an old car or home, can be flat and fixed. Boats almost always present additional problems that take additional time to fix. So I think when it gets to court, the mechanic can make a good argument that in the trade, an oral estimate is subject to change. That's the first issue, and related to it are that state's common and statutory law on contracts in writing (called the Statute of Frauds but it doesn't involve "fraud").
Second issue is whether the additional work was reasonable. A "not to exceed" condition would have stopped work. But it's reasonable to assume the customer would want the job done for another hour or so. If they go from 2 hours to 12, that's different. But if they had stopped at the point of the estimate, called you and said: do you want to pay what we've done and come get your pieces, or let us finish? what would you have done?
Third issue: if the work they ultimately did was worth it, your boat is better for it, and you owe it. That's called quantum meruit. To get out of it, you will have to hire an expert (another mechanic and pay him his labor rate to sit in court for a few hours, plus ghis time to go over the other guy's work) to say how much of the extra work was absolutely unnecessary. Is that cost effective? do the math.
It's a whole 'nother thing if you are certain the extra work was unnecessary or spent to correct their mistake. If you can prove it, they have to eat it.
If you sue them you will not recover your time missed from work or attorneys fees (if you hire one) but neither will they. If they are a small shop and you win you will have a hard time collecting your judgment.
So how much are we talking about: a $6,000 yacht rebuild, or a $800 OB fixer? If it's the former, your recourse is to go elsewhere next time and get your deal in writing. But watch out for what you ask for: if you insist on a flat fee for a boat repair, the mechanic, if he has any brains, will take his estimate and triple it to cover events like these.
In fairness, he should have called, but it's a long way from the guy in the back swimming in parts and the phone in the front.
Oh, and I assume you are unhappy with the price but not the work. And the above is just realistic advice. I have been there, brother, more times than I can count, and I don't like it either. Last one was "go ahead and replace the corroded trailer light ($14 at Boaters World) and I got a pair of $140 LED lights on a trailer I seldom use! But he knocked off 5 hours of labor (this was related to an electrical problem in the vehicle with lights, and the second shop to work on it.) I just looked at all the circumstances, and the alterntive, and moved on.
 
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