74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

Andy in NY

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okay so the last time she was out everything was perfect. 25 mph with a full load.

today, full throttle, just me, about 5 mph. ideas?



for comparison, heres how she ran the last time out.

 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

Sounds like you are running on one cylinder. Time to check for spark on both plugs.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

okay, i am a total idiot when ti comes to mechanics. how do i check spark?
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

The quick and dirty way is to pull the spark plugs one at a time. Take the removed plug and touch the thrreads (ground electrode) to engine block or cylinder head. Better yet, if you take a length of mechanics wire and some around the spark plug threads and then twist/secure the other end of the wire around a stud or screw attached to the block or head. Then crank the motor (turn it over using the starter motor) while observing what is goning on between the electrodes of the plugs. You should see nice blue sparks. If you don't on one of them, that is your problem. Be careful the motor may start during the test.

Two Notes:

1. It is very difficult to see the sparks in direct sunlight. Try to do the test in a dim or shady area.

2. Be careful especially if you decide to hold the plugs against the block. The high voltage is potentially harmful - probably won't kill you, but it certainly isn't pleasant getting zapped. Most folks who mess with these motors (myself included) have been zapped mone than once, it's not fun. Just use some caution and common sense around the high voltage. If you hold the plugs try to do it with insulated pliers.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

okay, its the top cylinder. i found it would run on the bottom cyl only, but not the top.

is HAS good spark.


when i pulled the plus, the top was really dry and sooty. the bottom was somewhat black and wet.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

I agree with the spark issue, there is a distinct difference in the sounds. Great video for troubleshooting! Beautiful lake as well.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

so at this point ive narrowed it doen to the top cylinder not getting fuel... where can i start troubleshooting it?
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

Ideally you should pull the top carb and rebuild it. Or better yet, both. For a quick fix you may get lucky and find a peice of crud blocking the high speed jet of the upper carb. In that motor I believe you can fairly easily remove the jet for inspection & cleaning with the carb still installed. A special tool (or modified screwdriver) is needed to unscrew the jet.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

oooh, is this new game? am i supposed to guess what you are going to say next???
:D

You caught me in the middle of editing my original response (which happened to make zero sense). You'll see the "The easiest... " thing is gone now.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

Ideally you should pull the top carb and rebuild it. Or better yet, both. For a quick fix you may get lucky and find a peice of crud blocking the high speed jet of the upper carb. In that motor I believe you can fairly easily remove the jet for inspection & cleaning with the carb still installed. A special tool (or modified screwdriver) is needed to unscrew the jet.

would there be instructions for this in the manual? i have the clymers manual.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

If the top cylinder is not getting spark then it is not a carb issue. Did I read that right?
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

To check and clean the jet, you would remove, clean and reinstall the part shown in the diagram from your upper carb. You would also want to run some carb cleaner through the high speed passages of the carb.

Rebuilding the carbs involves disassembly of the carbs, thorough cleaning and replacment of various components with new components from kits. It is really quite easy on these particular carbs. There are many good postings & threads regarding carb rebuilding here that can be referred to if needed.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

If you have 2 carbs and one cylinder is not running due to a lack of fuel through that carb then do not run the engine as that cylinder is not getting any lubrication. That's very rare though that a carb will not allow any fuel to pass through it. Did you try pulling the fuel line hose off the upper carb to see if it's actually getting fuel?
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

If you have 2 carbs and one cylinder is not running due to a lack of fuel through that carb then do not run the engine as that cylinder is not getting any lubrication. That's very rare though that a carb will not allow any fuel to pass through it. Did you try pulling the fuel line hose off the upper carb to see if it's actually getting fuel?

no, i have not tried that yet.

the reason i suspect its not getting fuel is when i pulled the plug, the top plug was dry, not a drop of fuel or oil on it. the bottom plug was slightly wet.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

had a similar problem on my 75 50 horse, lower plug wet, NO SPARK, ended up being the power pack was shot. wet plug could mean no spark, and plenty of fuel......
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

That's what I was thinking also but he said the wet one was firing...

The other thing is also when running just feel the head to see if half is hot and half is cool... But then you shouldn't be running it if one cylinder is not getting lubrication!
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

If you have 2 carbs and one cylinder is not running due to a lack of fuel through that carb then do not run the engine as that cylinder is not getting any lubrication. That's very rare though that a carb will not allow any fuel to pass through it. Did you try pulling the fuel line hose off the upper carb to see if it's actually getting fuel?

out working on it now... noticed that the fuel line rund to the top carb FIRST, then to the lower carb. not sure if this changes anything or not.
 

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Re: 74 evinrude 50hp wont go *video*

okay so i have good news and i have bad news.


i took the carbs off, and the high speed jets were clogged (completly on the top and partially on the bottom).

but now the bottom cyl isnt firing :mad:


seems like now the bulb isnt getting hard... its not soft, but i can feel air in it. any suggestions?
 
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