Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

G-Money

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This motor is mounted on a Scout 152 sportfish and I've owned it since early spring of this year. I've run it quite a bit this summer. After purchasing it, I rebuilt the carbs and followed the synchronizing and timing adjustments per the service manual. I removed the VRO and am running premixed at 50:1. It runs fine other than when shifting from neutral to F or R (it tends to stall if you don't throttle up quickly). However, the question I have now is related to a clacking noise I heard the other day when I had to throttle down quickly to avoid an oncoming wake. I was running at 3/4 to full throttle when I brought it back to 1/4 throttle or less in less than 1 second. The noise can be replicated, but I usuallly throttle back gradually and don't get this noise. The noise seems to be coming from the powerhead and not the lower unit and goes away once the boat finally slows down.

Does anyone else experience this noise when throttling back quickly? Is it possible that the prop and shaft may be spinning faster than the engine is being told by the timing advance or does it sound like another more serious problem.

I know how to prevent it (throttle back gradually), but am wondering if it is a sign of something else that may be wrong.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

The timing advance is hooked to the throttle so that isn't it, when you cut throttle you cut timing too, remember these engines are stone simple.

Not sure what it could be but it isn't normal and yes I think it is a larger problem waiting to be found.

When was the last time you changed/checked your lower oil?

With the engine off and in gear turn the prop both directions and see what happens.

If it is a bad clutch dog or a stripped drive shaft it may slip and you found your problem.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

I replaced the foot oil when I purchased the motor and I have checked it a few times (even since I heard the clacking noise) and found no water or metal shavings on the drain screw.

I have not tried spinning the prop with the shifter engaged but will try that and see what happens.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

Have you tried reproducing the sound in neutral just increase the throttle and back to idle ?
If yes it could be timing or foul plugs , lastly could be sign of loose wrist pin..
Use a stethoscope follow the hyper-link below you will be surprise how easy it is to pin point the location of the noise ..Let us know
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=419
 

G-Money

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

It doesn't do it while in Neutral (in the water or on the flusher) and only does it (in gear) when running on the water.

EDIT: I am concerned about a connecting rod/crankshaft issue also.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

If there is a pin problem it will probably show in a compression test. Piston slap due to a worn piston or sleeve could be your slapping sound. Again a compression check will show it.
If the ignition timing is out or not retarding correctly due to a bad linkage this can also cause noises.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

A loose or scored wrist pin will never show up in compression test just a FYI just like my loose rod cap did not before I found this see link, My compression reading was the day before I tore the engine down showed 130 LBS across all cylinder
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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

OK, so I used the mechanic's stethescope on the motor today while it was running on the flush muffs and heard no abnormal noises across the three cylinders or in the gear case. Double checked gear oil and it is clean. Checked compression and found 135-140 on all three cylinders. All spark plugs were consistent in color...light brown around the electrode insulator and a little wet with fuel/oil. With the shifter in gear I could turn the motor over with the prop.

I ran it in fast idle and in gear at close to WOT with no knocking/clanking noise when I pulled the throttle back quickly. Tomorrow I will double check the "in water" idle and WOT timing since it rained all afternoon here and didn't make it out.

I was telling one of my coworkers about it today and he said he had a late-80's 70 Johnson on a Jon boat that made the same noise when they throttled back quickly. All this makes me feel better, but I still would like to know what causes the noise I am hearing.

Is it possible that the driveshaft is vibrating against something in the intermediate housing when I throttle back quickly? My '06 200 Zuke had a bushing in the intermediate housing that was causing a squealing noise at 1500 RPM. I don't believe there are any bushings in the intermediate housing of this motor, but perhaps there is something "close" to the drive shaft that the shaft is making contact with?? Having never pulled the l/u off this motor, I'm not sure...just thinking out loud.

Thanks for all the suggestions/tips to try to pinpoint the cause and I will post what I find tomorrow.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

Try this, remove all the plugs and use a long slender screw driver and insert it through the plug hole. Slowly rotate flywheel by hand and let the piston push the screw driver out of the hole. You will know when at top dead center with piston when the screw driver stops coming out of hole. Keep rotating flywheel around about 1/2 turn and push on screwdriver, If there is slack in system, wrist pin or rod it will klunk when you push on piston. Repeat several times on all cylinders. I have found rod problems using this method. Just thinkin.
 

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Re: Clacking noise in '97 Evinrude 70

Please check your timing, it could be a pre-ignition knock , you did mentioned you did a link and sync did you change or check the timing ?
 
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