Floor repair question 17' Sunray

RobK1971

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Hi all,

I have a late 70's 17' Sunray which has at one time had the floor replaced. The floor was never glassed over except for a couple of inches in all the way around. Should I go ahead and glass it over or is it fine the way it is with the wood exposed? If I should glass it over what should I use for glass and resin?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
Rob
 

thrillhouse700

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

First thing you need to do is get a picture and possibly a core sample of the deck wood, if it has been exposed to the elements for very long at all it might have already started to rot away.
 

RobK1971

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

Well, I haven't cut into the floor to sample the wood so can't say for sure, but standing on it seems solid enough and looking at the bilge area where the cut out is for the pump, the wood looks solid. The boat has been out of the water for the last 2 years and very well covered. Apparently the floor was replaced in 2004 and the boat was only in the water 3 non-consecutive seasons after that if that makes a difference. I will see about getting and attaching a picture though.
 

78ImperialT

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

...heres the thing. if the previous owner didnt glass the top, then chances are...he didnt glass the bottom.

if you go ahead and glass the existing deck and it does start to rot, you are just going to make it a harder fix later.

you have to ask yourself...

1. are you gonna keep the boat? --- replace it.

2. are you gonna sell the boat? --- glass it.
 

ghamby

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

...heres the thing. if the previous owner didnt glass the top, then chances are...he didnt glass the bottom.

That, is the question.
Keeping it: cut it out and do it right. Glassed top, bottom, and edges.
Polyester resin will do fine. Epoxy is better but does not stand up to
sunlight. Hence you will have to paint the exposed portions.
You can pigment the polyester
Selling it: Glass it over and send it on. You could also sell as is and advise
the buyer. You could also be a true brother, fix it right, and tell the buyer
the proper fix is part of the price.
good luck GH
 

RobK1971

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

Huge thank you to all for your replies. They are much appreciated I assure you. This topic was my first post to the iBoats forums. I'm new to the whole boat thing (been a car guy all my life so far) and will appreciate some advice along the way in regards to boats. After reading the responses the decision really comes down to common sense.

The deal with this boat is it belongs to my GF. It was one of the few things she came out of a split with a couple of years back. It was used by a friend of hers for one season but no maintenance done to it, then it sat for a season until I came along and said, "Hey, a boat! Cool let's make it go!"

The boat is not worth much as far as boats go, at least not in the condition that it is in, so I think the most reasonable thing to do at this point is to just get it in the water and enjoy it for a bit because if I am going to go through all the trouble of redoing the floor, then I'm going to want to redo the whole boat; something along the line of what Tallcanadian did with his boat as I think it would be a really cool project. I checked the pics. Turned out very nice by the way TC! This boat I'm dealing with is a 1977 or 78 S140. There doesn't seem to be any info on these boats on the net so if someone knows anything about them please fill me in!

This boat needs to be rewired which I can do in an afternoon and it also needs seats. I have two cheap but brand new seats that will bolt in. As far as the motor goes, it is a Johnson 55 HP. I want to put a new pump and prop seal on it and looking at the engine wiring harness, it could use a new one of those which fortunately looks available for about $80. I attached a couple of pics of the floor to give an idea of what I'm talking about. Hopefully they turn out.
 

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tallcanadian

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

Huge thank you to all for your replies. They are much appreciated I assure you. This topic was my first post to the iBoats forums. I'm new to the whole boat thing (been a car guy all my life so far) and will appreciate some advice along the way in regards to boats. After reading the responses the decision really comes down to common sense.

The deal with this boat is it belongs to my GF. It was one of the few things she came out of a split with a couple of years back. It was used by a friend of hers for one season but no maintenance done to it, then it sat for a season until I came along and said, "Hey, a boat! Cool let's make it go!"

The boat is not worth much as far as boats go, at least not in the condition that it is in, so I think the most reasonable thing to do at this point is to just get it in the water and enjoy it for a bit because if I am going to go through all the trouble of redoing the floor, then I'm going to want to redo the whole boat; something along the line of what Tallcanadian did with his boat as I think it would be a really cool project. I checked the pics. Turned out very nice by the way TC! This boat I'm dealing with is a 1977 or 78 S140. There doesn't seem to be any info on these boats on the net so if someone knows anything about them please fill me in!

This boat needs to be rewired which I can do in an afternoon and it also needs seats. I have two cheap but brand new seats that will bolt in. As far as the motor goes, it is a Johnson 55 HP. I want to put a new pump and prop seal on it and looking at the engine wiring harness, it could use a new one of those which fortunately looks available for about $80. I attached a couple of pics of the floor to give an idea of what I'm talking about. Hopefully they turn out.

I appreciate the kind words. Your s140 is a nice little boat. 13'6" in length, 64" beam. It weighs 905lbs from the factory and is rated for 40hp. In the 80's it became the s-430 because of the metric system. If you look at transom from the back you will the HIN number in the top right hand corner of the transom. That is the hull identification number. The last two numbers is the year of your boat. You will have a beautiful boat when you rebuild it. Hope this helps.
 

RobK1971

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Re: Floor repair question 17' Sunray

Cool! Thanks for the info. Big difference from 17' to 13'6". I guess I should actualy use a tape measure netxt time:)
 
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