Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

BugsBunnyBoater

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Sine most people look for deals iin life I ask is the sub 1,000 something good for the new boater?


** I think a new person not informed should expect to spend 1,000 over sales cost to get on the water safely. The lil things the seller will say are easy to fix will add up.

On craigslist in my area must boats i seen tend to need trim motor work. a new battery. Impellers and others need new tires.So you see 500 boat = 1,500.00 boat
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

You get what you pay for. Some "cheap" boats are diamonds in the rough and some are near death.

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5150abf

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

Agreed, you could be gettting a nice boat that needs some work or you could be paying someone to haul away there garbage.

Paying $500 for a boat and expecting to use it right away is kinda silly, you are almost gauranteed to have some problems.

My boat was like that when I got it, it had BROWN astro turf and the wood wasn't in very good shape so it needed some work but the engine and hull were perfect and I knew what I was buying.
 

nitsuj

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

In my opinion, it depends a lot on the person buying it too. Are you the type of person who can fix things yourself? Do you rely on a boat shop do fix anything, or can you do fairly extensive work yourself? If your boat dies in the water, are you the type of person who grabs his tools and knows exactly where to look for the problem, or are you the type of person who doesn't bring tools because you don't know how to use them anyhow?

The bottom line is, there are deals out there. There are some folks who have a boat in their yard or garage and they want $1000 just to be rid of it. There are other boats that are complete junk for $1000 that will need many times that to be safe and seaworthy.

In my area, it's possible to get a decent older smaller boat and outboard for $1000 that is ready to take out. Once you get into larger (over 17') newer boats, anything for $1000 or less will need some work. Depends on what you want and what your mechanical skill level is.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I have never ever seen a boat that needed new tires
;)
 

ThrashN

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

There is no such thing as A Cheap Boat
 

rsw21282

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I am fairly new to boating myself. I bought a boat for 1981 w/ 85hp force for1000 bucks thinking ill fix it up, im pretty handy/mechanical. I tested the the motor to see if it works and lower unit was good. Ended up having ignition and fuel flow problems and when put in the water would not go past idle. Long story short i fixed most of problems but some req. test equipment that had to be taken to boat mech. then $$$$ started flowing. so the boat looks good but im prob. 2500 in to it and may sell for 1800bucks, i think the next boat will be 1000-1500 jon boat w/ newer 9.9 so wont have much into it. I think u arent really gonna get a "steal" very common. Gonna get what u paid for. Regaurdless on the "little things" that the owner says should be fixed.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

You just have to learn what can be fixed cheap and what will drive the cost up.

New to boating: I say a properly running and tested motor is a must. More so when you get above 10hp and the price skyrockets if you have to repower. Don't ever take a sellers word on what it needs to fix it. If they knew they probably would have done it.

Almost every fiberglass boat I have ever seen that is sub-1K needed work. Transom, stringers deck ect. It get pricey quick. MOst tinny are pretty straight forward in the you can usually see the extent of the repairs needed and may be able to judge the cost.

IMHO it's always good to start with a 12-14' tinny, 10 or so hp motor with a trailer. They'll get you on the water, great for fishing, straight forward repairs. Good ones can be had all day for $500-750. Even if you decide to go bigger in the future I''ll almost gaurantee you'll keep the little one for life. As many big boats that I've went through I've always had a tinny ready to go in the yard. I love the fact that when it's just me or 1 other I can hook up and be on the water in 30 minutes.


If you do decide to get a fixer upper, estimate the costs of repairs and at least double it. You may be in the ballpark then.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

The best <$1000 boat you can find will be an aluminum hull with an outboard you can still get parts for that has good compression. If you start with that, anything else is fixable.
 

nitsuj

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I've just figured this out as well. If you happen to need a used outboard motor, I've had much better luck finding a good deal on a serviceable outboard if it's already attached to a junky boat. When looking for a kicker to attach to my boat, it seems like used outboards get top dollar. But an old beat up boat with a running outboard seem to go for cheaper than if the used outboard was sold alone. Looks like you can buy the boat, cheap, remove the outboard, scrap the hull and sell the empty trailer and make up some of the cost of the boat and outboard. The boat market is weird.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

^^^^Word :)
 

high'n'dry

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

You are talking about 1,000 dollars, yeah, go for it. it might turn out to be a diamond in the rough or a total write off. In either case, 1,000 dollars is nothing and hardly a life altering sum of money, the loss of which will ruin your life.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I also agree with the 14' tinny with a small outboard. Dead simple and if the outboard is beyond help a replacement is easy enough to find.

for $500-$700 you get a nicely used tinny, small outboard and trailer. $100 or so on parts to get the outboard running tip top, another $100 or so for two new tires, fresh bearings and a new light kit on the trailer and another $100 for misc gear and you are still under $1000 and can be on the water within a week of purchaing the boat.

Add to that if the outboard runs and the trailer rolls, you can still get $700 or so for it
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

Hi there,


I lucked out this spring and bought a diamond in the rough. An '86 Bayliner with Volvo engine and outdrive for $800, including trailer.
It had sat for 12 years in a marina before I bought it (you can look up my other posts for descriptions of what it took to get it sea-worthy), and I've spent VERY LITTLE money getting it to the point it's at now.
The largest single expense was replacing the floor, which I did "unconventionally" for under $300. My total purchases, which include stuff like lines, flares, a wakeboard tower (another lucky deal), etc. etc. is around $1,000. Most of that stuff I'll take with me when I purchase my next boat.

My philosophy in buying a boat was that I wanted something with an I/O setup. I've heard (and experienced through friends) so many horror stories of "no spark" problems with outboards, and the very high costs of trying to get them running again, so I felt that if I stuck with an automobile-based engine I would have a much easier time. A friend on mine spent over $800 on electrical and ignition parts for a 90's 80 HP outboard and never did get it running. He's a mechanic, so I was sure he would be able to fix it. Anyways...

I can buy most parts off the shelf at the nearest auto-parts store (of course not marine-specific stuff like starters which are safety-issues, but stuff like wires, plugs, coil, etc.). And it is so much easier to diagnose since things are accessible, and relatively simple to remove and replace.

I definitely got lucky with my purchase. There are, of course, many crappy old boats out there. But there are options beyond a tin boat with a 9.9 that won't break the bank.

I had a good automotive mechnical background which helped me immensely, and I own a wide assortment of tools so I was able to do my own troubleshooting and repair. For example, I took the starter apart and cleaned the rust out of it, and it has worked great all summer. I did need to replace the solenoid, but found a little starter shop and got it done for $70.


The best thing you can do is be patient. Don't jump at the first deal that comes along, no matter how tempting. And don't talk yourself into something you don't think you can handle. It took me many months of searching to find the right deal (and I actually stumbled across it after yet another trip to see yet another basket case that the owner said was way better than it was).

One final suggestion - if you can score a trailer first, there are SO MANY great deals on boats out there that don't include a trailer. Especially between now and November when people (up here in the north anyways) have to find a place to store their boat for the winter. I have a list a page long from last year of boats under $1000 that were pretty good, but didn't include a trailer (and at the time I didn't have one either).


Hope that helps you, Good Luck!

Chris
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I paid $1000 for my first boat....1980 Stingray 17' bowrider with mercruiser 120
The boat was mechanically sound but not too pretty, I stripped the old paint off the hull (not marine paint) and repainted with one part polyurethene.
Floor and transom was in good shape I installed new carpet and seats and made a real nice first boat.
If your going to go with a cheap first boat my recommendation is to buy something that checks out mechanically and make sure the floor and transom are solid.
The cosmetics are an easy fix..... the rest of it....not so much.
 

scutly

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

im lookin at boats under 2 grand now with a friend (who thinks im a boat expert cause i had mine for two months. lol! :D) what pieces of crap so far. :eek: this is my first boat and i paid 8 grand for her and still had to fix a bunch of stuff but i love her.
 

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I am fairly new to boating myself. I bought a boat for 1981 w/ 85hp force for1000 bucks thinking ill fix it up, im pretty handy/mechanical. I tested the the motor to see if it works and lower unit was good. Ended up having ignition and fuel flow problems and when put in the water would not go past idle. Long story short i fixed most of problems but some req. test equipment that had to be taken to boat mech. then $$$$ started flowing. so the boat looks good but im prob. 2500 in to it and may sell for 1800bucks, i think the next boat will be 1000-1500 jon boat w/ newer 9.9 so wont have much into it. I think u arent really gonna get a "steal" very common. Gonna get what u paid for. Regaurdless on the "little things" that the owner says should be fixed.

Just kind of wondering if you told your buyer, who was much like you when you bought it, what all you had been though with it, if you could sell it at all.
 

triumphrick

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Re: Can a cheap boat be a good choice for a person new to boating?

I have never ever seen a boat that needed new tires
;)

LOL.........:D:D

Not sure if everyone got the point!

If it were just that simple, Kev. And I am sure you and I both know it's not. If you get into boating with few if any mechanical or technical skills, you are doomed to spend what it takes to get your cheap boat fixed.
When I see the posts of the newbie taking his just found el cheapo rig to the local mechanic and posting about the $85 - $100 hr labor rates, I cringe.

I guess making a good deal is inherent in many of us; but there are a lot of good salesmen out there. They not only sell iceboxes to eskimos, they sell their pos boats to unsuspecting folks who come here and post away about the good deal they got...

All it takes is time and money......you are going to need some of each to turn these "bargains" into a rig you can use and enjoy.
 
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