why me! 1958 35hp johnson

[coolguy147]

well i just got a new prop in cause the other one was bad and the shop couldnt repair it cause they said it deterieted or something.

well i take it out now its popping out of gear! i dont know what to do. i check the adjustment at shift lever and its ok i cant put it anymore because it will put to much stress on the carriage cause more to break.

dont know what to do get foward gear and clutch and rebuild lower unit. or find a lower unit? what lower units are compatiable?

or should i just sell motor as it?

 

[Daviet]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

It looks like a nice clean motor. I would check the price of parts, you probably couldn't find another nice one for the price of repairs. On some of those old motors you could swap the gears and turn the clutch dog around.

 

[steelespike]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

On some motors when they pop out of gear you can reverse the clutch dog.
Assuming someone hasn't done so allready

 

[coolguy147]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

no dont turn the clutch dog around! because its different on each side even though it may loook the same. one of the sides is like 20 thousandths or something smaller and it will cut off oil to one of the gears i believe.

only motor you can switch gears i know is 50hp fat fifty

 

[cougar1985]

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why not just buy another cluch dog?they can still be had quite easily.i picked one up for a 56 30 johnny from the dealer ,though it was not in stock it came from omc/bombi in a couple of days and was not that pricey.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

probably will have to replace my foward gear too

 

[coolguy147]

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there like 80 bucks for the clutch and 150-350 according to brp 1968 33 or 40hp models dont even know if these would work

 

[cougar1985]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

look around ,i seen the dog on line for 56 bucks,are you sure about the foward gears?i have a 1970 33 evinrude tiller that i play around with and i know the prop and impeller and housing will work on it from a 56 johnson 30 hp.

 

[coolguy147]

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isnt it usually if the clutch dog goes then the foward gear goes also

 

[cougar1985]

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replaced the dog on my 56 and never had another problem.

 

[coolguy147]

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i guess only way to find out is to tear the gear case down. just i hate purchasing items over the internet well i never have since i really cant lol

 

[F_R]

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After over 50 years, there is no way to know what condition either the dog or gear are in without looking. It may have been repaired half a dozen times by now.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

You have to get it fixed in time for TD's shindig at Crystal Isle next April.

 

[KoenBrink]

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There should be a pin inside your prop. Maybe you did forget to place it and now you propshaft is running but doesn't spin your prop.

The pin is a protection for breaking your axle or something like that, when you're hitting the ground with your prop. The pin should break then first. It's an easy fix, will cost you about 3 dollar.

 

[coolguy147]

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sheer pin ya dont remind me about that either. i have a good sheerpin. well you see i was taking the prop off to take some of the weeds off it and plop sheerpin fell right off!

now i got to get that and open the gear case and! rebuild the lower unit seals since i took it apart

 

[stevenj]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

Check in at aomci.org there is also a ton of knowledge over there on these
motors and such. pull the lower apart and check it out, ask in the webvertize
section and you may luck into someone having new old stock parts and or
even a complete used lower unit in good condition. very nice bunch to deal
with over there. ask F_R he knows. Also may want to join the club, even try
to find a local chapter and go to a meet, thats what I did, If you take your lower to the meet chances are very good the crew there will pull it down with you and show you the ins and outs of it.
Steve

 

[mikesea]

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there are many years and horsepowers that interchange,the late 50's to mid 60s perhaps even later,33,35 and 40 hp.i agree about the flipping of gears,donr do it cause sooner or later you will be in the gearcase again,i have successfully dresses up the clutch dog and the forward gear many times with a dremel type air tool with various grinds,the clutch dog usually gets most of the wear,so i have dressed the expensive forward gear and replaced the clutch dog alone,you can see the way the meshing areas should look by looking at the otherside of the gear,my explaination is more apparent when looking at the items.purchasing another lowerunit is questionable ,because,you dont know if it has the same common problem,unless you know the owner,or the seller can assure you its ok ,and or the lower came off an engine that has upper problems its a crap shoot,ebay often has people selling old stock,i think its joe reeves on this site that has old stock for sale,what to do at this pointwell,is the motor truly a sweet ,clean show room eng,if so perhaps its worth spending the money for parts,if you are seeking to keep a vintage eng.and its clean,then spend the money,if you just need a 35-40 hp eng,then you should consider a more up to date eng,those dinosauers are gas eating machines that really dont give the performance the later yr engines give,i believe any engine with cd ,no points ,ignition is the way to go,far more power,efficient,and less maint ,i do have some issues with the 48-55 hp 2 cylinder engines of the 80's era because ,i know a few guys that blew the lowerunits and couldnt find replacements ,used,easily,and again,parts are costly,iif your boat can handle a 60-70,the 3 cylinder engines ,with the newer exhust confiurations are the way to gopowerhouses and efficent,parts are redily avail because many engines interchange parts,

 

[tmcalavy]

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Post a wanted ad on the classifieds at www.aomci.org
You're in FL, so check out that site for upcoming swap meets by the two FL chapters. Clutch dogs are not that expensive and if you can replace the coils, you can open the LU, replace the clutch dog and reseal it correctly. Have a diagram/schematic on hand before you start.

 

[coolguy147]

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nah i dont have enough money to get another motor. this motor ive put a lot of time and effort into. the engine runs great idles good. even looks good! either i fix that engine up or put my merucry 1961 500 on it which i want to cause i havent been able to lake test the engine yet

ya winter project for me. sometime im gonna put some stabil in the motor run it and let it sit. then take the lower unit off and do my diagnosise. doctor do you concur?

thanks for the encouragment guys. lower unit stuff and block stuff is something i havent done so this is new

 

[coolguy147]

Re: why me! 1958 35hp johnson

ok found a clutch dog for 45 dollars seals 20 dollars and foward gear if needed 150-180 dollars


only way to check is if i take the gearcase apart which ill try to do this weekend

what you think of these prices?