History from the perspective of Europe?

[Marty Niner]

Re: History from the perspective of Europe?

Just want to point out that Canada declared war on Germany the day after Britian did, the Canadian Navy played a huge part in the battle of the Atlantic, the RCAF was bombing Germany right along with the RAF at night, and the USAAF (later USAF) carried it on during the day... I know, we were just a bunch of colonials like the Aussies and New Zealanders who were grouped in with the British... but Canada landed on its on beach in Normandy (Juno beach).... oh, and for anyone who thinks that the war could have been won without the US is a complete fool!

Here's to all the hero's that fought and died, and also those who had to live on with the memories and losses....Lest we forget!

 

[Summer Fun]

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April 29th, 2005

Wow a 5yr old thread.

 

[Marty Niner]

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ya, I just noticed that it was from '05... :redface:... just came across the thread and had to put my 2 cents in

 

[jonesg]

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As my family came to the USA many years ago from Kent (abt 1650) I think that I should remind my country men, that if it was not for the young Americans, small part in WW II, you would probably be speaking German---Bob

Whaaat ! No chance!
German invasion plans were scuttled by young English pilots and hardheadedness of the German leaders.
Hah, howabout if not for England Americans might be speaking German.

Spitfires just look better, they couldn't lose.

 

[jonesg]

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This page has a down loadable copey of Alan Turings own files while in charge of the code breakers at Betchley, and makes fascinating reading l]

Turing, a giant among geniuses.!
His work, especially the halting problem, haunts scientists to this day who think they can invent artificial intelligence.

 

[tx1961whaler]

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Turing, a giant among geniuses.!
His work, especially the halting problem, haunts scientists to this day who think they can invent artificial intelligence.

Yeah, too bad Turing got persecuted until he killed himself....what a waste...

 

[Aviator5]

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If it not for Americans, Europe might be speeking Russian now

 

[bekosh]

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You know, if Germany had been more "successful" and managed a negotiated peace with the UK in 40/41, no way in he!! they can manage an invasion.

They could maybe then manage to achieve a stalemate in the east, say along a line from Odessa to Minsk to Riga, by about 45/46.

Unfortunately for Germany, the US will get involved at some point. Then it's all over but the crying. Because by 40/41 the Manhattan project is in full swing and if the UK goes down, the B-36 gets pushed forward as the number 1 priority for development.

That means by around mid-47 or early 48 you have 200-300 B-36 bombers with a total around 250 atomic bombs on board heading east over the Atlantic. At that point Germany is doomed. They have almost nothing that can get high enough to stop the B-36 and most of the industrial cities that would be targeted are just the perfect size to be destroyed by a single 20kt bomb.

The lights come back on in Europe, except for that glowing, radioactive crater where Germany used to be.

 

[Tim Frank]

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Because by 40/41 the Manhattan project is in full swing and if the UK goes down, the B-36 gets pushed forward as the number 1 priority for development.

"Full swing"?
Was hardly beyond a concept before 1942.

 

[bekosh]

Re: History from the perspective of Europe?

"Full swing"?
Was hardly beyond a concept before 1942.

My bad. I should of double checked my dates. The Uranium Committee was researching the bomb during the 39-41 period, then in 42 it became the Manhattan Project under the Office of Scientific Research and Development, and expanded dramatically.

 

[JB]

Re: History from the perspective of Europe?

Too much "History" is written by people who tell it the way they wish it was.

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: History from the perspective of Europe?

Too much "History" is written by people who tell it the way they wish it was.

Does that fall into the category of "The older we get the better we were?"....