Some Peoples Kids

Alpheus

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I was perusing around Craigslist the other day and happened across this add.

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pts/1528192379.html

I figured that's a pretty good price for a rebuilt small block, Ill bite.

I call him up and run down to the OBX to have a look. He tells me that the engine was totally rebuilt using new pistons,rings,bearings,mild cam,lifters, the whole kitten caboodle. He shows me all of the receipts for the machine shop work for hot tank,magna flux, line boring,cam bearings, cylinder boring and honing. He said that after he rebuilt the engine he installed it in his truck and it ran like crap. He said it was missing and not firing on all cylinders. He did a leak down test and found that the # 2 cylinder had no compression and he figured he must have broken a piston ring.

After hearing this story I noticed 4 piston rings sitting on top of the engine. He told me they were extras in the kit. I thought it was weird but OK.I tried to talk him down a little but I ended up paying 300 bucks for it. I get it home and start tearing it down. I pulled off the oil pan and checked the main bearings and the rod bearings, and sure enough they are brand new. I pulled of the intake and heads and removed the # 2 piston and was in shock at what I found, or didn't find. There was no piston rings on it. The oil scrapers were there but no compression rings. I pulled the rest of the pistons out and the # 6 piston didn't have any rings either. This explains why it ran like crap and didn't have any compression. It also explains why there were "extra" piston rings in the kit. Not only that but all of the ring gaps were in perfect alignment, right down to the oil scrapers.

I called the guy up and asked him who assembled the engine. He said why? I told him what I found and he said" You have got to be ***** me! Well my guys put it together". I just thought this was funny because this guy owns an engine shop. I put the "extra" rings on the pistons and put it all back together. Now I have an extra engine for my boat just in case...
 

mla2ofus

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

That's almost funny, but ya wonder what else they've left out of other engines. Ya gotta know what's happening as soon as the piston clears the ring squeezer 'cause it's gonna fall all the way to the crank. I think this is a classic case of "I don't give a *****!!!". There should be a red ***** or two around that shop at the least.
Mike
 

zbnutcase

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

That clown isn't qualified to work on a lawnmower, let alone own an engine shop. Glad to see it was spin tested after assembly! 'nutcase
 

V8nuts

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

omg.. no rings I have heard it all now.. some people are just so stupid . How do they make it through life..glad you got a deal :D
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

That's almost funny, but ya wonder what else they've left out of other engines. Ya gotta know what's happening as soon as the piston clears the ring squeezer 'cause it's gonna fall all the way to the crank. I think this is a classic case of "I don't give a *****!!!". There should be a red ***** or two around that shop at the least.
Mike
Or classic case of drinking on the job.:D
 

EddiePetty

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Alpheus !!!!!
I'm tryin' to decide if you are blessed or cursed!!!!
Where in Tidewater do you find these boat(trailer) dealers and 'repair shop's ???
Ed in 'ol Virginny:)
 

jeeperman

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Alpheus !!!!!
I'm tryin' to decide if you are blessed or cursed!!!!
Where in Tidewater do you find these boat(trailer) dealers and 'repair shop's ???
Ed in 'ol Virginny:)

x2
But I was thinking the title "Some Peoples Kids" was gonna be a ***** fest about unruly kids in restaurants, LOL.
 

fat fanny

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Alpheus I'm W/ eddiepetty your like the Forest Gump of the boat world your always in the right place @ the right time! But I guess with a little spin added on each deal. You watch one night someones gonna leave a trailer in your front yard.
 

tswiczko

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Originally Posted by EddiePetty
Alpheus !!!!!
I'm tryin' to decide if you are blessed or cursed!!!!
Where in Tidewater do you find these boat(trailer) dealers and 'repair shop's ???
Ed in 'ol Virginny


X3
You have got to be kidding. Owns a shop?:eek: I worked with my cousin for a while in a shop doin engines, you could eat off the benches in our assembly room, when an engine went together the book was out and followed even if it was the third 350 you had put together that day and there was a checklist that we made up and put on paper to verrify which step we had just completed, compressiont test run before starting and if it didn't run right it was torn down by a different mechanic to verrify you didn't screw something up.
 

DaNinja

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Leftover rings!:eek:
His engine shop has a serious QC issue and may want to look into that whole random urinalysis thing.

Sidenote: Alpheus, This was an automotive engine (truck) and you're considering it as a possible replacement in a boat? In the little SeaRay?
 

Alpheus

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

I have finished rebuilding the engine and got her fired up. She runs like a champ. I had a little trouble figuring how to wire the coil correctly but once I got that figured out she fired right up. The engine that was in the little SeaRay was pulled because I broke a spark plug off in the head. After I got the engine out it looks like the exhaust manifold had been leaking for awhile and corroded the side of the engine pretty bad along with the motor mount. I transferred everything from that engine over to this one, along with new manifolds and risers, and changed out the freeze plugs. The cam that was in the engine was a mild RV cam so I just degreed it a little bit (advanced) for some better bottom end. I also put in Pete Jackson Timing gears that I had laying around. The engine is ready to be dropped back into the boat. I even left the block painted orange as a tribute to my old muscle car building days.

I am going to make a video of how to wire it up using jumpers and the original harness when ground running it, because someone asked me to do it on another thread.

As for getting good/bad deals, its because I have bought and sold more boats than I care to remember. I am always looking for the B.B.D.

Bigger Better Deal...
 

DaNinja

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

Sounds fun Alpheus!
I asked about the motor because I have the same SeaRay and I have been looking to upgrade the powerplant for some time.
 

Alpheus

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Re: Some Peoples Kids

You will not find an easier boat tp pull an engine from. Honestly it took me 35 minutes to have the engine ready to pull out. Everything is very easy to get to and disconnect. I just put my engine hoist in the bed of my pick-up truck and backed up over the boat to get the hieght to lift the engine out...
 
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