Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

Campe

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We are looking for help in finding a nice lowend bowrider, new. We have never owned a boat before.

Any suggestions would be great !

TYVVVM
 

macr6

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Re: Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

Are you buying used or new? If you buy used please do what some of us on here never did. Make sure you take it for a test drive a really good test drive. Put the boat through its paces. Run it hard, run it long run it bad, but above all else RUN IT IN THE WATER not on muffs.

If you buy used have a mechanic look at it. If you buy used make sure you're ready to shell out money or become a mechanic.

If you buy new make sure you do the maintenance. Make sure you do the maintenance and make sure you do the maintenance.

Boats can go bad quick with a little bit of neglect.

Getting all that out of the way you asked a very open ended question.

How many people do you plan on putting in your boat? Take that number and add 2 to 4 more. Friends love friends with boats.

How much money do you want to spend? What are some of the things you think you can't live without? Will you be tubing or waterskiing or wakeboarding?

All that aside, bayliner makes a great beginner boat, however it may leave you wanting more after 2 seasons.

Some people might say buy a used boat and "cut your teeth" on that before dropping a lot of dough on a used boat.

I purchased a used boat trying to follow that logic and learned a lot about boats. I had a lot of great times and I also had a lot of "i want to blow this piece of sh** up" times.

Whatever you do you are going to have a lot of fun. Try and give some more details so people can better help you.

Good luck
 

Bucks45

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^^^^^^^^what he said!
 

ziggy

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We have never owned a boat before
take a boating safety class through the us power squadron or uscg aux. talk to others and see what they've got or had in the beginning.

ya may consider used. harder to buy not being knowledgeable about boats, but after ya get it, ya won't mind it when ya smash it into the dock a few times since it's already used. if ya need help, many folks run the prospective purchase by the folks here on the iboats forums. ya'll get honest answers..

check out chapmans seamanship and piloting book at the library. everything ya ever wanted to know about boating..

about any br in the 16-18' class will be starter boats made by whoever. usually powered by a 4 cyl. i/o engine. some may be powered by medium hp o/b's too. ya will have to decide which way ya wanna go there too. ea. have their benefits. myself. if i was getting new. i'd want it wood free if possible. fwiw, the '75 boat i got is mostly wood free and it was a selling point on the + side with me.

search these forums using the search function. these types of questions come up often. might start with #1 from this link. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=300472
good luck on your adventure....
 

ezmobee

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Re: Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

Outboard: anything but Chrysler/Force is fine. I/O: stick with Volvo/Mercruiser.
 

Subliminal

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Throw up a price range and the ways you think you'll be using the boat (what sports, how many people, what kind of waters, etc..)
 

Mischief Managed

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I highly recommend spending a little extra up front to get a well maintained, clean, outboard powered bow rider. One of the best combinations I have seen is the Four Winns 170 Horizon with a 90 or 115 Johnson OB. It's extremely simple (cheap) to maintain, reliable, decent looking, and comfortable. The extra cost for the outboard engine versus a 3.0 liter I/O will be offset in <5 years of reduced maintenance costs.

A friend of mine was in the same position as you last year and I helped him do tons of research. He bought a very clean (like new) 2001 Four Winns 170 Horizon with a 90 HP Johnson OB and a trailer for $6500.
 

BTMCB

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Not quite sure how low is low end for you, but I am 100% pleased with the new BR in my signature. After negotiation and factory rebates, I was out the door for about 20k. There others cheaper and others more expensive.
 

pinellas50

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I was in your shoes last July. I did as much reading on here as I could. It appears you are doing the same. The thing that stuck out in my head is that it's not so much the make of the boat that is important but how it has been maintained. I'm talking used here.

For me, the wife and I thought we wanted to be boat people but there was no way to be sure until we bought. So I wasn't down with dropping money on a new boat. I kept looking at ads from used dealers, craigslist, etc for many months. Be very wary of the stuff on Craigslist if you don't know what you are looking at in a boat. I did a lot of home work before I started really looking.

I came across a 93 17' Starcraft that had just been repowered with a Mariner 115 outboard. The boat came from Indiana(fresh water) and had been garaged all it's life. Both the exterior and interior looked like a year or two old. The owner needed money to fix his truck so he was letting it go for $3,500.00. I found very little info out there about fiberglass Starcrafts of that era so I just looked at it's overall condition. I made sure the transom and floors were solid. I didn't find anything that alarmed me. But the most expensive thing on boats is the power train so that's where I really spent time looking things over. The boat was also designed as a fish and ski so it had a built in live well. This was a plus because these are the exact things I wanted to do with a boat. I knew I didn't intend on taking it miles and miles out into the Gulf of Mexico so the 17' size didn't bother me. The boat had an outboard on it which was also a selling point for me.......I had researched and talked to a lot of folks about OB vs IO and the consensus was that OB's are normally more reliable and much less costly to maintain.

The only thing I didn't do was take it for a sea trial before buying. I know that is a big no no and I don't recommend doing what I did. But I am mechanically inclined and a good friend of mine was a boat mechanic for many years so I wasn't worried about things mechanically. Again I'm suggesting to do the exact opposite of what I did here. I did hear it run on the muffs and verified it would go into both forward and reverese without issue.

Well, there was very little I had to do to the boat. A new bilge pump, rectifier, and oil tank because of the sensor. I did everything myself so this didn't cost much to do.

At the price I got mine we just couldn't pass it up. I figured if we found that we hated boating I didn't loose much in the purchase and I believe I could get most of my money if not all back out of it.

I expect to get hounded for saying I didn't go on a sea trial. And rightfully so. The folks here give the best information to minimize the possability of you getting hosed on a purchase.

Other factors to take into consideration are how mechanically inclined are you? That can be a big factor in how much this hobby costs you. Where do you plan to store it? Your side yard is much cheaper than a marina or having it sit baking in the sun in some dusty storage lot.

Our story, we love our boat and take it out every chance we get. I don't think the magic will wear off. Hopefully this one lasts long enough for the kids to get out of the house and we can afford payments on a new, step up in a boat.
 

reap182

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Re: Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

boaters course and boat shows
 

riverkeg

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Re: Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

In addition to the above advice (which is spot on), I'd like to recommend getting as big a boat as you can tow and hopefully store. For years I'd had fishing boats (aluminum w/outboards) but last year, we decided to get a family boat. I was looking for the same thing you are except I wanted a sterndrive only because I'd never had one. I started looking at 17-18' but then I stumbled on a very nice 206 Rinker right in my town of 900. A lot of people I know knew of the boat and how it was cared for so that was some reassurance but I still required a sea trial. I was not disappointed. I also had my heart set on the 4.3 V6 but this one has the 350 Magnum. It's not the best in fuel economy but the care of it was meticulous and that was more important. As it turns out, it barely fits in my garage and both my vehicle are able to tow it. Someday maybe I'll want more but I think buying a bigger boat than I was looking for should stave off "foot-itis" for a while longer. Good luck in your search and be patient. Also, get it inspected if you can.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Bowrider suggestions for new boaters /

three words: out! board! motor!

try to "know" the seller. Does he keep his stuff squared away? Does he know what he's talking about when it comes to maintenance and careful operation? Can you tell if it was neglected and cleaned up for sale, or always kept clean?

Don't lock yourself into a bow rider. Dual console is a great option and center consoles make great family boats (better than bow riders, in my opinion). Look for lots of open space, not closed-in comfort zones.
 
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