some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

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scutly

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first off, does weber even market this carb under there own name anymore? or do they just sell them to edelbrock? cant find any information on webers website. second question is does anyone know if there is a fuel filter anywhere built into this carb? i have a solid fuel line going from my water separator to my carb with no inline filter. if i remove the fuel line at the carb, is there a filter cartridge or something? third question is what would be the benefit if any to do an electric choke conversion? the kit is cheap.
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There should be a screen of some sort under that fitting, but the water seperating fuel filter will filter MUCH better than that screen. It's just for big stuff.

PS: Here is a picture of your boat, in the Un-squished condition.

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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

Ayuh,... #1,... Donno,... They both are Copies of the Carter AFB...
#2,... Nope,... No filter inside,.. The Cannister filter is enough...
#3,... As long as the original is workin',... No...
 

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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

PS: Here is a picture of your boat, in the Un-squished condition.

I've heard of fast repair service, but that was incredible. How did the boat get flattened?
 

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thanx for the quicky answers! my sig has the original pic now. i resized it at first to fit the sig guidelines and i think i like it squished sorta
 

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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

#2,... Nope,... No filter inside,.. The Cannister filter is enough...

I agree the canister is enough, but are you sure there isn't also a filter in the carb inlet? I know Bond-o knows his carbs... ;) ... but I suggest pulling it off and looking. I know I have seen a filter in there on some carbs - even those that have a fuel / water separator.
 

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either way i'm gonna open that fitting up come spring fer my own piece of mind. i had some issues last season with hard starting when warm, and a high idle which caused dieseling which caused salt water hydro-lock. i DO NOT want that to happen again so im learning as much about this carb as i can now so i can set it up and tune it proper.
 

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Do you have the OEM Service manual for your engine, it has all kinds of info on that carb.

BTW, I didn't mean you HAD to change your picture, it just always looked Too distorted.
How about this one, a little sleeker, but still looks believeable.

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I agree the canister is enough, but are you sure there isn't also a filter in the carb inlet? I know Bond-o knows his carbs... ;) ... but I suggest pulling it off and looking. I know I have seen a filter in there on some carbs - even those that have a fuel / water separator.

I had an Edelbrock 1409 - no filter in that fitting.

I have an Edelbrock 1410 - no filter in that fitting on this model either.

IIRC, the diagram on the rebuild kit shows a filter there and one is included in the kit, but the diagram is generic and there are other several parts in the kit that aren't used.

Both ran electric choke. The only issue I ever ran into was turning the key to run without trying to start the engine (I think I was messing with the radio) - by the time I went to start the engine the choke was open and it was a bit harder to start. Obviously that counts as being self inflicted.

Also, I replaced the hard line to the carb with a rubber hose. At one point I plumbed in an inline fuel filter, which leaked like a sieve and ended up being a lot of hassle. After I took that filter out I teed in a fuel pressure gauge that has been VERY helpful thusfar.
 

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Please tell me all of your fuel hose, fittings etc are installed per USCG regs.

Where did you find a fuel pressure gauge that was rated for instalation inside the engine compartment?
 

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Please tell me all of your fuel hose, fittings etc are installed per USCG regs.

Where did you find a fuel pressure gauge that was rated for instalation inside the engine compartment?

Uh oh. Did I screw up?

I don't skimp on getting Marine stuff when I know - alternator, starter, flame arrestor, carb, all solenoids, etc. that I have replaced so far are either Mercruiser parts or Marine certified. Including the rubber hose that goes from the fuel pump to the carburetor. It passed inspection that way.

I was told that putting an approved rubber hose there was beneficial from the standpoint that steel lines can crack from engine vibration (local Merc dealer).

As far as the fuel pressure gauge, I hooked up a system using a female tee, two male barb to male npt fittings with the pressure gauge on the perpendicular port of the female tee. Typically that port would be plugged, but I was busy troubleshooting last season so I left the gauge in. I just wanted a convenient access point that didn't involve disconnecting a bunch of stuff and spilling more fuel than I had to.

I was not aware that a pressure gauge had to carry a certain rating. If it does, I suppose I could convert to a sending unit with the gauge mounted in the dash.

77 gallons of gas is nothing to play with in my book so do let me know if the system is not up to par and I'll make it right immediately.

I'm always learning about regs that aren't the ones new boaters typically are told to follow but are on the books. For instance, late last season a Coastie buddy of mine said that if you're at the fueling dock and spill a certain amount of fuel (I forget exactly how much, but it seemed ridiculously small) you HAVE to call them out and they can cite you. And, IIRC, the second instance of that results in a pretty hefty fine.
 

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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

My Carter AFB has some sort of screen in the fuel port. I just finished putting heads and a new intake on mine. It doesn't cover the entire opening. Instead it looks like the following picture I drew with my superior MS Paint skills. haha. The grey bar is the filter piece.
 

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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

most weber 4 barrell carbs have a screen filter inside. it is located just inside of the fuel inlet. you need to take the top half of carb off. it is located underneath the needle seat on the fuel inlet side. check out this link for weber carb info. http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Servmanl/16/16B5R2.PDF
 
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Re: some Weber - Edelbrock 4 brl carb questions

Correct. Two tiny little cylindrical screens below the needle seats. I have seen them clogged and dislodged in many Edelbrock carbs...
 
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