buying new prop

sstRobalo

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need to buy new prop and have no idea on size and pitch.1984 merc 50hp 2stroke Boat is a 1972 Robalo R180 with dry weight of 1300lbs(no motor) guessing current weight is around 2000lbs or slightly under.Yes i know its under powered....Trying to get as much top speed as possible dont care about hole shot..Prop that came off measured 11,1/4" but there were NO markings on it for pitch or size,and cant compare to new on because old on had to be cut in a million pieces to get it off due to constant salt water use.Probubly will stay with aluminum because i plan to sell motor to go bigger..no tack so dont know rpms...Any thoughts where to start???......thanx...........scott:confused::confused:
 

hwsiii

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Re: buying new prop

Robalo, the more information you can give us the better we can answer your question.

You might try reading this for a better understanding of changing props for better performance, and for the major differences between aluminum props and stainless steel.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=369057

Welcome to the forum, I will try to help you as much as I can but without more information no one can help you, and I will tell you I need more information than anyone else. But if you would like my help fill this form out and I will help you as much as humanly possible, if you would prefer to not go to this much trouble there are other people who will gladly help you. My expectations are that you are willing to expend as much time and energy as I will to find a better prop for your boat.

Just copy this form to your computer and paste it into a word processing program and fill it out, then paste it into your post or just use the numbers for reference in your reply and type in your information.

Iboats Boat and Motor Info

1. Year, make and model of boat

2. Length, width and base weight of boat, look for boat decal on back of boat

2a.What is the maximum recommended HP for your boat

3. Number of people and gallons of gas normally on boat

4. What do you use the boat for

5. Is it a Deep Vee and if so how many degrees of Deadrise

6. Year, manufacturer and model of motor

7. HP and gear ratio of outdrive IMPORTANT
If you don?t know the gear ratio, you need to pull the plugs out of the motor and put a piece of tape across the prop and the lower unit and then cut it between the prop and the housing then do the same thing on the flywheel and turn the motor until the tape lines up with each other on the prop, it is easier if two people do this, so one can watch the prop while the other counts the revolutions of the motor

8. Manufacturer?s recommended Wide Open Throttle (WOT) range

9. Anti-ventilation Plate height above the bottom of the transom of boat if it is an outboard in inches, use a straight edge or a board under the keel and sticking out to the anti ventilation plate for a reference, and take about 4 pictures for us to see.



10. Is it a bass boat or does it have a pad bottom and is it on a bracket, if so how far does the bracket extend from the stern.

11. Does it have a hydrafoil, dolefin, whale tail or trim tabs and is the motor on a bracket, and if so how far back from the stern is the bracket

12. Manufacturer, model, diameter, pitch, number of blades and whether SS or aluminum props.
IMPORTANT
1.
2.
3.

13. WOT RPM and speed from your current prop and how much gas and how many people were in the boat for the test data and is the speed by GPS. Make sure you trim the prop up until it starts ventilating and then just trim in until it quits ventilating. If you do not have a tach you can buy a Tiny Tach for less than $ 50
RPM ___________ Speed (GPS)___________ No. of people ____________ Gal. Gas ________

14. Are you at sea level or a higher elevation, give us the elevation in feet __________

15. Has your motor been tuned up lately and have you checked that the carburetor butterfly is opening all the way by only using the control on the console, checked compression, looked at the plugs and checked spark, is the bottom of the boat clean and barnacle free, and have you checked the Tachometer against a mechanics tach, all of the foregoing could be the reason your prop is not attaining full RPM.

16. How long has this prop been on the boat and why, at this time, do you think it is the wrong prop.

17. Does the prop show any damage that you can see

18. What problems are you trying to cure or what are you looking for the boat to do that it is not doing the way you think it should or to your expectations

19. If you are trying to attain a better cruising speed and fuel savings or trying to attain a faster speed I will want you to take your boat and run it with 1 or 2 people and give me the RPM and speed readings starting at 3,000 RPM in 500 RPM increments all the way to WOT.
1. 3000 RPM
2. 3500 RPM
3. 4000 RPM
4. 4500 RPM
5. 5000 RPM
6. 5500 RPM
7. 6000 RPM

REMEMBER, The prop I recommend will be NO better than the information you give me.


The only thing I ask of you is to come back and give me a report of WOT RPM and speed for my database.


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sstRobalo

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Re: buying new prop

is guess i'll have to keep guessing cause i've listed all the info i can as explained there is no prop on the motor( had to destroy it to get it off)just trying to get a base line of where to start but i think i'll go and see what the merc dealer says by taking the boat to him to look at

I do thank you for you response and the time you put into it..but unfortunately i dont have enough info
 

steelespike

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Re: buying new prop

Replacing a prop without a tach could be suicide for your motor.
If you read the stickies at the top of the page and the helps on the iboats prop store page it will help you understand prop selection.
A tiny tach is about $40 and easy to install.
Shooting from the hip I would try a 10" pitch.If its too small the motor could over rev and could be damaged.If too big the motor will lug and experience prermature repair problems.If it does seem to over rev you can throttle back a little.If it lugs there isn't much you can do about it.
 

sstRobalo

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Re: buying new prop

Where do i buy a tiny tach..nothing on ebay for anything other than a 2 cyl.
 
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