International sales?

[heyttown]

I think I found a buyer for one of my boats, they are from toronto and I live in the states..I was just wondering if there are any fees or penalties given to me for a sale that go into another country. He is driving to me to pick the boat up and tow it home. I would think he would have to deal with taxes and stuff like that at the border before he crosses.
Is there anything I need to do to cover my *****? Or can it be as easy as selling to someone like your neighbor, just sign the title over and make sure his money is good?

 

[dolluper]

Re: International sales?

First paperwork has to be at border 72 hours ahead of crossing
Easiest if he brings his own licensed trailer if not more paperwork and red tape long list

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: International sales?

Heytown...ok, this is a very simple deal and do not be surprised at all of enquiries from Canadians....you are going to hear more all the time given the rising strength of the Canadian Dollar.
Ok,....nothing to watch out for here but full payment from him. The taxes, etc...border stuff...etc, is his business.
All you have to provide him is the correct and true title for both the boat and trailer....and a quality bill of sale with your name and contact info. That's it.
If you negotiate some shipping up close to the border...that's a good and helpful thing for him and may not be too difficult for you, depending on where you live. Just keep to the U.S side with your part in the deal...it really is up to him to do the border/customs/tax stuff...which is really pretty straight forward for a Canadian anyways.
Regardless....make sure he is legit. Again, these types of enquiries are going to heavily be on the rise over the next months and they are worthy of getting in on.
The value of goods in the U.S is heavily depreciated compared to equivalents in Canada so this is why a lot of Canadians (myself included) look south of the border for boats, cars (huge business), RV's...even a lot of real estate lately.
All good
BP

 

[izoomie]

Re: International sales?

I am a Canadian and bought a boat that was registered in NY. The boat was physically in canada when I bought it, so I had to take it to the border with a bill of sale. It was a straight forward process there. I think the duty tax was very small, but they can call the border to check if they want.

They then have to register the boat with government services to get a number, then they have to register the trailer for the road.

Not too big a deal as I remember.

 

[heyttown]

Re: International sales?

Thanks for the help much appreciated. i was wondering what constitutes a bill of sale? Can it be a hand written letter just giving my name address and phone number saying I sold the boat to john doe for xxx amount or do they require something businesslike on a letterhead from my bank or ???this is all new for me, but great if the deal goes though.
Thanks again,

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: International sales?

Thanks for the help much appreciated. i was wondering what constitutes a bill of sale? Can it be a hand written letter just giving my name address and phone number saying I sold the boat to john doe for xxx amount or do they require something businesslike on a letterhead from my bank or ???this is all new for me, but great if the deal goes though.
Thanks again,

The bill of sale can definitely be hand written...no problem. If you do it up on the computer with a little more official appearance then sign it afterwards it might look a little better.
Just make sure your name and number, registration numbers of the boat and trailer and date are on it.....you should be good to go.
All Good
BP

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: International sales?

Thanks for the help much appreciated. i was wondering what constitutes a bill of sale? Can it be a hand written letter just giving my name address and phone number saying I sold the boat to john doe for xxx amount or do they require something businesslike on a letterhead from my bank or ???this is all new for me, but great if the deal goes though.
Thanks again,

The bill of sale can definitely be hand written...no problem. If you do it up on the computer with a little more official appearance then sign it afterwards it might look a little better for presentation purposes on his part. However the border guards get the bills of sale in all type of formats, hand writing...you name it.
Just make sure your name and number, registration numbers of the boat and trailer and date are on it.....you should be good to go.
All Good
BP

 

[cougar1985]

Re: International sales?

when i bought my snowmachine in michigan i had to stop at u.s customs and get them to stamp the title as ok that was all for the u.s side as i recall.canadian side was show the bill of sale and away i went .when i came home to canada it was late at night and the customs guys were not very interested in my sled or me atall so i got through with zero hassle and zero cost!

 

[paulspaddle]

Re: International sales?

First paperwork has to be at border 72 hours ahead of crossing
Easiest if he brings his own licensed trailer if not more paperwork and red tape long list

Nope, paperwork doesn't have to be there 72 hrs in advance....not for a boat.

Yup, bringing your own trailer skips some paperwork and makes it easier.

BP's giving some accurate advice so I won't chime in. I too did this last year...once you do it, you'll see how straight forward and easy it is.

Good Luck!

 

[dolluper]

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Hummm I'm sure boats and vehicles are the same.....180-200 vehicles i've done that is the way 2 sure...paperwork has to be approved first some don't meet Can standards {newer} antiques are a breeze {no emissons,daylight running lights....cars ,trucks}....if your buyer doesn't have a trailor ...safety check ,title,bill of sale ,gst...just to cross the bridge

 

[paulspaddle]

Re: International sales?

Hummm I'm sure boats and vehicles are the same.....180-200 vehicles i've done that is the way 2 sure...paperwork has to be approved first some don't meet Can standards {newer} antiques are a breeze {no emissons,daylight running lights....cars ,trucks}....if your buyer doesn't have a trailor ...safety check ,title,bill of sale ,gst...just to cross the bridge

Cars yes, boats and trailers are not the same.

Unless things have changed since November when I dragged my boat across I did not have to do this. Believe me I did my research before hand as I was nervous about it, I asked this question specifically.

IF the trailer is newer than 15 years you will have to get it inspected, but that is done at Canadian Tire. You pay customs $200 at time of crossing the border.

 

[dolluper]

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WTF can tire does it ...come on now that is rediculous.....anyone licsenced can pass a trailo otherwise it would be colousion on the gov....they wouldn't want that law suet

 

[paulspaddle]

Re: International sales?

WTF can tire does it ...come on now that is rediculous.....anyone licsenced can pass a trailo otherwise it would be colousion on the gov....they wouldn't want that law suet

Yup, they are the only ones recognized to do it. We are talking federal gov't here.

 

[dolluper]

Re: International sales?

Yea in Manitoba and just maybe check it out ....but in ONT any licsenced facility can safety check a trailor,,,,,hummm why did I know that WONDER eh