88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

gaventure

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I have an '88 model XR4. Will the Service manual for an '89 XR4 cover the '88, or are there some differences?
 

achris

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

They are different manuals...

For the '88 - 90-976583
For the '89 - 90-8140981

Chris....
 

achris

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

So, I couldn't use the '89 manual for my '88? My serial number is 0B264462. What manual(s) will work for me?

Marine service manuals are the most unorganized material I have ever ran across. 88-90, then 89-90?

Never worked on Perry-Tritech equipment then. :D:D

gaventure said:

No, that manual is for 89-90...
 

gaventure

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

Where can one find this mystical manual, other than the $100 item from a dealer?
 

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

Achris,
What's the difference between 88 and 89?

John
 

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

As I'm a 'by the book' sort of tech, then if the book says use this manual.... that's the manual I'll use. As I don't own a 89-90 manual I can't compare them to see what the differences are. As I don't know for sure what the differences are, I go by the right manual... not one that's 'close'....

0.02....

Chris.... :p
 

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

As I'm a 'by the book' sort of tech, then if the book says use this manual.... that's the manual I'll use. As I don't own a 89-90 manual I can't compare them to see what the differences are. As I don't know for sure what the differences are, I go by the right manual... not one that's 'close'....

0.02....

Chris.... :p

Translation: I don't know.:D
 

gaventure

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

Thanks for the 3 manual links achris.

So, I will assume that an '85 manual will work? Alrighty then. As long as I have a manual that I can trust! I'll be the sole wrench'r on my engine unless I get really stressed and strung out to the point of no return.

Thanks again to everyone for their input and references! :)
 

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Re: 88 and 89 XR4 the same? - Service Manual?

I got curious so I looked it up. The evolution of the XR4 goes something like this.

All are a vertical reed front 2.4l V6 conservatively rated at 150HP with a 1.78:1 small prop diameter LU. There are a couple of versions of the LU, the later one being a bit stronger in the driveshaft bearing department.

At first, they had a 16 amp rectifier on the starboard side and a shunt regulator on top. They had a combination idle stabilizer/advance module on them. The cowl is a clamshell that won't go over a 40 amp flywheel cover, but it will clear a 40 amp flywheel. (ask me how I know)

Then they went to a bucket type cowl.
Then they switched electrical to 40 amp with the wetback regulator.
Then they dropped the advance part of the timing module, leaving only the idle stabilizer. (That was a very good thing)

Most of us immediately ditched the idle stabilizer/advance module, mostly because when they fail, they advance timing about 30 degrees, which at WOT will throw rod caps at the driver and put wrist pin inspection ports in the pistons.

The 40 amp wetback worked fine when it worked, often burned out the regulator, and the regulator is very expensive. It's easy to convert to 16 amp with flywheel, stator, stator screws (shorter) and rectifier. The shunt regulator/fire starter is not needed.

I put a 40 amp dual regulator system on mine. A mounting plate for the regulators goes where the advance module and shunt regulator were. I split my system with 20 amps for the engine battery, and 20 amps for the trolling motor batteries. A power relay connects the trolling batteries in series for use, and with ignition 12V energizing it, puts them in parallel for charging.

Key mods from stock. If you ditch the advance module, set WOT timing at 23 degrees. If it balks or loads up at fast idle, set the throttle pickup adjustment a bit later in the throttle arm travel. (timing advances a bit more first)

They go like a scalded dog. Enjoy it.

John
 
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