1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

1. Since I am removing those seatboxes filled with foam, will that significantly reduce the buoyancy?

2. Do I need to sand down the whole interior once it is completely gutted out or do I just reapply fiberglass coating?

 

[jkust]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

That is a 1984 Bayliner not an 83. We have the exact same boat except we are the original owners.

 

[solar7647]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

1. Since I am removing those seatboxes filled with foam, will that significantly reduce the buoyancy?

No the floatation foam is to keep the boat from fully submerging if it sinks. But in some boats such as mine for example the foam is also used as a structual support and if it is removed it can cause the hull to flex and torque. But I dont see how just removing the foam from the seat boxes would have any effect on anything other then giving you under seat storage

2. Do I need to sand down the whole interior once it is completely gutted out or do I just reapply fiberglass coating?

You will want to clean the old glass before putting down new, and the best way is to grind and clean with acitone. You only need it where the new glass will be fusing to the old glass. I used the same SS wire wheel I used on the foam to grind the old glass clean, but there are other ways. The main thing is that the resin has a wax on the surface that needs removed so that you get a good bonding surface, if not the new fiber glass will peel.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

That is a 1984 Bayliner not an 83. We have the exact same boat except we are the original owners.

WOW thanks, what is the exact model on this boat because the seller did not know too much detail.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

No the floatation foam is to keep the boat from fully submerging if it sinks. But in some boats such as mine for example the foam is also used as a structual support and if it is removed it can cause the hull to flex and torque. But I dont see how just removing the foam from the seat boxes would have any effect on anything other then giving you under seat storage



You will want to clean the old glass before putting down new, and the best way is to grind and clean with acitone. You only need it where the new glass will be fusing to the old glass. I used the same SS wire wheel I used on the foam to grind the old glass clean, but there are other ways. The main thing is that the resin has a wax on the surface that needs removed so that you get a good bonding surface, if not the new fiber glass will peel.

I bought the wire wheel, but when I got back to my boat it did not fit my grinder, LOL. So I did it the hard way again!!

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Thanks to everyone who is supporting this thread with useful idea's and information.

Here is my progress so far. I finally removed 99.9% of the seat boxes except a few inches attached to the hull & I started a little cutting of the deck.

 

[solar7647]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

I bought the wire wheel, but when I got back to my boat it did not fit my grinder, LOL. So I did it the hard way again!!

That suck! the wire wheel is a messy but its fast and clean up is easy with a shop vac. Just get a resperator of some kind.

The work is looking good though, keep truckin

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Oops I accidently cut through my hull trying to remove my deck! what is the best way to repair fiber glass from inside and outside the boat?

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

I started to cut through the front deck of the boat and discovered a pool of undrained water.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Here is what I have done so far. My day ended because my angle grinder blade broke in half, anyone know why a grinder blade would brake in half while cutting through the deck? good thing it did not fly out and hit anything.

 

[Aquaholic_GP]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

I am by no means an expert - but I had a "accident" with a girder as well and I sanded the area inside the floor, taped wax paper to the exterior side of the cut (to prevent resin form leaking onto the gelcoat) and just put a layer of 1708 over it. Once the fiberglass cured I filled in the hole with bondo on the exterior side and am going to paint over the bondo once its sanded/prepped to a once finish.

I am sure others will pipe in as well - as I just took a look on the forum and figured this repair method would work for me. Lots of great info on this forum!

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

I am by no means an expert - but I had a "accident" with a girder as well and I sanded the area inside the floor, taped wax paper to the exterior side of the cut (to prevent resin form leaking onto the gelcoat) and just put a layer of 1708 over it. Once the fiberglass cured I filled in the hole with bondo on the exterior side and am going to paint over the bondo once its sanded/prepped to a once finish.

I am sure others will pipe in as well - as I just took a look on the forum and figured this repair method would work for me. Lots of great info on this forum!

Thanks Aquaholic, I will definately look into those materials!

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Im having a hard time cutting out some of the wood on the boat, i am currently using a angle grinder cutter (which smokes alot) and a circular saw. A friend of mine told me that a Reciprocating Saw would be 10x more effective. Anyone using Reciprocating Saw or any other tools to help them speed up the process of gutting the boat?

 

[solar7647]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Im having a hard time cutting out some of the wood on the boat, i am currently using a angle grinder cutter (which smokes alot) and a circular saw. A friend of mine told me that a Reciprocating Saw would be 10x more effective. Anyone using Reciprocating Saw or any other tools to help them speed up the process of gutting the boat?

Well I would say go for using what will be least likly to beable to cause extra damage. I used a electric multi tool for most of mine and a circular saw on the deck set to a 1/2 inch depth so that it just cut the deck and nothing else.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Is it neccessary for me to remove the top cap of the boat?

thx..

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Yes it is necessary! I did some more inspecting and the transom is rotten. So I have decided to take the cap or shell of my boat. Can someone identify these rivets or screw? and what tool will i need to remove them?

Outside on the weather strip

Inside

 

[lowvlot]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Looking good. I am in the same place as you right now. Although my transome and stringers are in good shape. I did use a sawz all on my deck removal and if you get a long blade it will follow the contour of the hull well. Sure did make quick work of the removal. I also was able to use the sawz all to cut along the edges of the seat bases and pound them apart with a hammer then with the claw side you can dig into the foam sorta low and yank that foam out in one big chunck. Did both mine that way. The rerst of the foam is easily removed using a small flat blade screwdriver and a 6 inch putty knife. I can assure you i have had no real trouble removing any of it. Keep at it. looking good.

 

[foodfisher]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Yes it is necessary! I did some more inspecting and the transom is rotten. So I have decided to take the cap or shell of my boat. Can someone identify these rivets or screw? and what tool will i need to remove them?

Outside on the weather strip

Inside

Those are rivets. Will need a drill motor and a bit with a diameter a little larger than the hole in the rivet. It the rivet starts to spin a little rocking of the bit will finish the job.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Looking good. I am in the same place as you right now. Although my transome and stringers are in good shape. I did use a sawz all on my deck removal and if you get a long blade it will follow the contour of the hull well. Sure did make quick work of the removal. I also was able to use the sawz all to cut along the edges of the seat bases and pound them apart with a hammer then with the claw side you can dig into the foam sorta low and yank that foam out in one big chunck. Did both mine that way. The rerst of the foam is easily removed using a small flat blade screwdriver and a 6 inch putty knife. I can assure you i have had no real trouble removing any of it. Keep at it. looking good.

Yeah the sawz or reciprocating saw made gutting the deck much more efficient, I was able to slice and dice bigger chunks with no burning smoke smell compare to the angle grinder cutter.

 

[jpastor707]

Re: 1983 Bayliner Capri Help Needed

Those are rivets. Will need a drill motor and a bit with a diameter a little larger than the hole in the rivet. It the rivet starts to spin a little rocking of the bit will finish the job.

I never dealt with rivets before so im doing a bit of research, do I have to drill from the outer side or from the inside of the rivets?

Do I have to take of the whole cap, or can i just lift the rear end of the cap so I can just work on the transom?.

thx