I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

[fshngho]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Didn't you say SWMBO is a gardener? Quit being selfish and buy one for her! If you are nice she may let you borrow it.

Hey, it works for me

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Yeah I really should have gotten the trailer.

I had the hatch open, plywood sticking out the back for the drive home. About 45 minutes. You know how driving with the rear hatch open on a vehicle like this just sucks exhaust fumes back into the car? Normally I just drive with all the windows and sunroof open and it's fine, but the way I had the plywood sitting in the back, it was actually helping to funnel the exhaust fumes right up into the front seat area of the car - it was really bad. My eyes were burning the whole way. Oh well, after telling SWMBO about how I almost killed myself to get the plywood home, she's now on board with the trailer idea too.

Got everything off the transom last night except the cable to the transducer. By the time I got that far last night it was too dark to follow the cable to get it freed up for fishing back through the hole.

Tonight the little lady and I are going out for a fancy dinner to celebrate our first anniversary and I'm about to bottle my first ever batch of home brew right now, so there will be no progress on the boat tonight. Tomorrow I have from sun up until sundown to work on the boat, so expect an update then!

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Congrats on the 1 year . We celebrated our 50th in late February. I can smile now as my 16 SS is now complete , put the motor on it and lake tested today. Nice boat, as most of my others have been 19-23 feet in length. You will have a great time when you are finished with yiour project.

 

[nowback]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

50 years!
1st year I remember that,, been down hill ever since. lol
Pugetsound whats the secret getting past the 10 year point? I might need it.

Congrats on the 1 year . We celebrated our 50th in late February. I can smile now as my 16 SS is now complete , put the motor on it and lake tested today. Nice boat, as most of my others have been 19-23 feet in length. You will have a great time when you are finished with yiour project.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Best advice is to have compatable interests as well as seperate ones . That way there is a relief valve for each to have some indepindence. And its always whats yours is mine and vice versa. Sounds silly but works. LOL after so long things get to the point as whatever happens, just go along with it ,if they worked well keep doing it. As I have always said if it aint broke dont fix it. Same applys to boats for me I never look for trouble it comes soon enough by its self.

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

50 years! Wow. Way to go. I'm sure we'll hit our 50 year anniversary too. If we live long enough - we'll be in our 90's!

Well I ate lobster and prime rib, she had the tenderloin. Went for a little drive along the Mississippi, came home and I bottled up 40-something bottles of "Superior Strong Ale" and stuck 'em away in the basement for another two weeks.

Maybe I'll be lucky enough to open the first one to toast my newly-installed transom, motor and outdrive. Here's hopin'....

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Can't believe I forgot to bring the camera today. My sincerest apologies.

Got the transom wood out today using Jas' method with the strap slid between the aluminum and wood, through the big hole and back up. Hooked that to the chain hoist on my skyscraper gantry and started pulling. Came right out, easy peasy. The wood has extensive rot throughout, so I'm really glad I decided to go through this hassle. The good news is that it all came out in one piece (even the bottom) so it'll make a great template. The aluminum part of the transom looks like it'll clean up nicely. I didn't see any corrosion, but I still have to clean it off to fully inspect it.

Took the seat box off the the starboard tank and found the source of the fuel smell. The vinyl and wood underneath the tank were wet with gas, so this tank definitely has some small leaks. The tank was still full after five years, so the leaks must be very small, but there nonetheless. Once I get it all siphoned out I'll get to cleaning it up and inspecting it. Is JB Weld a good idea or a bad idea for patching fuel tanks? Would I have to do it from the inside too?

Pulled the side board and found more chewed foam and a much more extensive squirrel nest. Like sticks, leaves, pine needles and fur. Then upon closer inspection, the fur turned out to be the mummy of an actual squirrel that looked like it had been there for a couple generations.

I could not for the life of me figure out how to get the controls removed from the sideboard. I got the handle (and what I assume is the choke knob) off and removed three screws on the round backing plate, but nothing would come loose beyond that so I just disconnected the cables and left the control attached to the board. If anyone knows how to get this one loose, please speak freely. Again, I apologize for the lack of pictures, this one's kinda hard to explain without them.

Also pulled the new motor back out so I have more room to work and start pulling the floor out.

Then I realized it's August already. Wow I have a long way to go.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Apologies are no good. Put all that stuff back, get your camera and do it again

I dunno man. I'd be looking on clist for an aluminum or poly replacement. I have seen them go pretty cheap. You have plenty of time to look too. When you start saying things like "patching" a fuel tank something doesn't sit well in my belly ya know. Piece of mind, eh!

You have to be feeling good about turning this into a full rebuild when you are finding petrified squirrels in your walls huh!

My imagination tells me that your work looks great!

Cheers buddy

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Turns out I didn't forget my camera today, it was stolen by my wife. She had some neighborhood garden tour thingy she was working today and she ganked my camera without even asking. I just bought her a new point n' shoot for our anniversary, but I ordered it late and it won't be delivered till Tuesday, so in a roundabout way, it's still my fault.

Okay Jas my brutha, I felt so guilty I went out to the garage to take some pictures of the transom wood just for you.


There were some good parts

There were some bad parts

I traced it out and made the lines straight again with a straight edge

I setup the straight edge - my circular saw wants 1.5"

Then I realized my circular saw is at the old house where I'm working on the boat. ARGHHH!!!! Well my at least my jigsaw was here so I could still get something cut out.

 

[fshngho]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Papa, usually on the controls there are 3 screws that are thru bolted into the side of the gunwale. You would have to reach your hand up inside there and try to hold a wrench to the nuts ( sometimes double nutted) and turn the screws.
Congrats on the anniversary.

 

[barato]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

you're not even one year into the marriage and she has to look at THAT in progress? and she still wants to be married to you? and she wants you to buy a trailer? do whatever it takes to keep her happy and hang onto her.....congrats on the anniv!

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Just ordered 2 gallons of CPES! Hope yer right Kainon....

I'm gonna soak the two transom boards separately in CPES, then laminate them together with epoxy. That ought to hold up for an eternity.

Then for the floors, I'm gonna soak them in CPES and cover with 10oz. fiberglass cloth.

Oh crap, guess I gotta go place an order with US Composites now....

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Okay need some advice:

The floor is 12 feet from cabin walls to transom and a little less than 6 feet wide so I figured 10 yards of the 38" wide 10oz. cloth will be plenty.

So how much resin should I order? I only need enough for the glass on the floor. Will one gallon be enough?

 

[Kainon]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

I dont say this much, but I Promise you wont be dissapointed with the post CPES Results, especially doing both sides.. So you're getting the 2 Gal kit eh ?.. sweet..,

I'd love to see a deflection test, but think that would be tough to setup.

Take 2 left over peices of transom, one coated and one not.. leave them outside on the dirt, and let us know what they look like next year.

ps when I glued the 2 peices together I had them sitting on a pallet and about 800lbs of weight on them distributed as much as I could, and left them like that for 3 days. I didn't clamp the edges though, i think I should've.

 

[Kainon]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

You going to cover with the glass after you install right ? so you'll cover the seams and screws.. Are you going to have the edges go up onto the alum ? do you think it will last long there ?

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

You going to cover with the glass after you install right ? so you'll cover the seams and screws.. Are you going to have the edges go up onto the alum ? do you think it will last long there ?

I don't plan to run the glass up the sides - don't see why I should?

I'm struggling with covering the screws with fiberglass - if I ever need to get the floor up again, I'll have to destroy it to remove it. I'm kinda thinking of going like this:

cut out the floor panels
soak the panels in CPES
lay the panels in the boat
fiberglass the entire floor
drill pilot holes for screws or rivets
resoak the holes with CPES and/or epoxy
screw the screws in place.

See any problems with that?

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Good progress...you are into the fun stuff now

On my deck I sealed it with epoxy resin w/ no mat and then coated the self-tapping screws with 3M 5200 before installing permanently. After than we put down one more coat of epoxy to seal all the screws in for hopefully eternity.

I agree...these decks are not easy to bring back up...I wouldn't ever consider it that's why I now have a fish corpse mixed in with my flotation noodles.

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

I just can't bring around on the non-removable floor thing. I don't think I'd pull the floor for just a stuck bluegill, but someday I'll want to get under there again for something.

So how much resin should I order? Is one gallon enough? NorthBeach used a gallon to do the bottom and top of his floor, same size boat but without the cabin it's a bigger floor, and I'm only using this to glass the top (CPES will take care of the bottom and edges) so now I'm wondering if I can get away with 1/2 gallon?

 

[ezmobee]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

That's the problem. It seems to depend on the resin. NB used like one gallon and I somehow went through 3 on mine.

 

[paparoof]

Re: I'm an owner! 1975 Islander 22

Papa, usually on the controls there are 3 screws that are thru bolted into the side of the gunwale. You would have to reach your hand up inside there and try to hold a wrench to the nuts ( sometimes double nutted) and turn the screws.
Congrats on the anniversary.

Okay, went back today and got pictures. Much easier to explain this way.

You can see where I removed the three screws from the front:

But those three screws didn't come through the back and I don't see any other way to separate the front and back pieces so I can remove this.

Help?