Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

joel45acp

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The transducer cable was accidentally cut. Inside the cable it has two silver wires, one is insulated by a clear tube, and the other wire is insulated by the outside cable. Can it be soldered back to life? Thanks for all info.
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

Ayuh,.... You can Try it, but the odds are against ya...
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

It is probably repairable. I have seen it done. However, it does require some skill with electronic soldering. Take it to a good repair shop (if such exist anymore). Have them use "no-clean" flux on it and then cover it over with the melting type (waterproof) heatshrink tubing.

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I have cobbled them back together, but that;s exactly what you'll end up with..."cobbled coax".
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

thanks for the advise guys. I'm very handy with a soldering gun. I build all my battery packs for my R/C planes and make repairs to servos and such. I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it turns out. Thanks again.:D
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

The outer conductor is a shield. The shield helps prevent noise from entering the center conductor. If you cobble the cable together it will lose its noise-reducing capability.

Instead, solder a metal RCA plug on one side and a metal RCA jack on the other. (For cables that have two center conductors plus a shield, use XLR connectors.)

You can use shrink wrap to protect the junction, but I prefer liquid electrical tape.
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

The outer conductor is a shield. The shield helps prevent noise from entering the center conductor. If you cobble the cable together it will lose its noise-reducing capability.

Instead, solder a metal RCA plug on one side and a metal RCA jack on the other. (For cables that have two center conductors plus a shield, use XLR connectors.)

You can use shrink wrap to protect the junction, but I prefer liquid electrical tape.

I agree, if the cable is not in the water then this is your best option.
definitely will last longer and work better than soldering.
May still need to replace it in the future.
 

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Transducer cable repairs are simple. If you have soldering skills you can easily fix it. Put shrink tube on each wire and wrap both wires with aluminum foil before putting heat shrinking the entire cable.
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

Thanks for the wealth of info gents. The portion of cable that was somehow cut,:eek: is below my center console. I'm rewiring the nav. lights, fishfinder and such at the moment. Again, thanks for all your input. This is a great forum.:D
 

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Transducer cable repairs are simple. If you have soldering skills you can easily fix it. Put shrink tube on each wire and wrap both wires with aluminum foil before putting heat shrinking the entire cable.

FYI - Wrapping both wires with aluminum foil is only partially effective, and it also needs to make electrical contact with the shield or it doesn't work at all.
 

joel45acp

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

thanks guys. Rick, I did repair just as you mentioned. I'll check it out on the water tomorrow. Thanks again folks.
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

FYI - Wrapping both wires with aluminum foil is only partially effective, and it also needs to make electrical contact with the shield or it doesn't work at all.
I can tell by your connector selection that you must be an audio guy.

In this application the sheilding is pretty much irrelvent. The cable in question is nothing more than a two conductor with foil cover shield.

The transducer is running off pulsed AC. No temp or speed signals to isolate. Could have used wire nuts and it would have worked just fine.
 

joel45acp

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

Boy! You guys are full of it.........info that is.:D I'm new to boats so all advise is taken with a smile. Thanks mucho!
 

RickJ6956

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

I can tell by your connector selection that you must be an audio guy.

I suggested audio connectors because fish/depth finders use sound waves, and because they are widely available. Both RCA and XLR connectors are capable of passing signals at 200kHz.

In this application the sheilding is pretty much irrelvent. The cable in question is nothing more than a two conductor with foil cover shield. The transducer is running off pulsed AC. No temp or speed signals to isolate. Could have used wire nuts and it would have worked just fine.

Sound waves are AC signals and are susceptible to interference. This isn't so important during the pulse/output part of the cycle as it is when the device is "listening". Unamplified audio inputs need to be shielded.

There are two types of AC signal cables: balanced and unbalanced.

An unbalanced cable has one center conductor and either a foil wrap with a bare "drain" wire or braids/wraps that serve as both shield and ground connection. This is the type that I believe Joel described. It's identical to that found on an RCA home stereo cable.

A balanced cable has two center conductors in a twisted-pair configuration. If it is shielded it has a third conductor -- either foil or braid w/drain wire.

In both types, the outer metal sleeves of the connectors allow the shield to be continuous and protect the inner conductor.
 

joel45acp

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

The darn thing worked!!!! Thanks for your input guys. Have a great weekend.
 

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Re: Transducer Cable had an oopsie.

I agree with what your are saying, just not your solution.

RCA and XLR connectors are fine for use in your car or living room. They are notorious points of failures in a marine environment. Cables in a marine environment need to be soldered and sealed or terminated on a terminal strip in sealed housing. If you take care and connect the shields on both sides of the splice back together performance losses will be negligible
 
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