AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

occarvers

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A buddy gave me a 1984 Bayliner with a Volvo AQ125 and 270 drive. He said he had done a compression check, rebuilt the carb, new plug, wires, cap, rotor,but it would only run at high idle. Then it sat over the winter and he was tired of messing with it and since he had another boat he gave it to me. Many hours spent in the barn by me and my two sons re doing the interior, redoing wiring, draining out the old gas, replaced outdrive lift drive, clean and paint the water systems,install new seals and gaskets ( both seawater and fresh), new freeze plugs in the block one was weeping so replaced all 4. New camshaft seal, valve cover gasket, exhaust gasket and hose, and new bellows, u joints and had the prop reconditioned. Got it running and out on the water. Ran pretty good out on the Lake but after a long period of no wake idling it loaded up and was hard to start, nursed it back to the landing and on to the trailer. Back in the barn again, ok round 2 rebuilt the carb, re check timing, new coil, plugs, gap points, check to see if the fly weights are free in the distributor. Got it running, idling pretty good,and accelerates good if you punch it. It bogs out if you apply slow increase to the throttle. Also does not want to run between 2 and 3 grand wants to die out. Not sure what to try next. Anybody have a similar issue or know of anything else I may have missed?
 

lutherfetch

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Let me guess.... Solex 44pai? Ur problem is the carb. Have the same setup in an 85. If I do not pump the throttle hard enough to shoot gas down the carb, mine dies btw 3 and 3.4k. There are all kinds of posts and not much in the way of solutions. There is no replacement carb that I am aware of. If someone has a better answer, I would LOVE to hear it.

-john
 

PiratePast40

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

The carb isn't terribly complicated but it is intolerant of any debris or varnish in the passages. Rebuilding this carb is mostly about cleaning. I've had to rebuild mine a second time and ended up letting them soak overnight in carb cleaner, blowing out all the passages with compressed air, and then cleaning it again in with hot soapy water followed by blowing out all the passages again before repainting and reassembly.

Here are some things to look at with the carb:
*) verifythat the accelerator pump is working correctly.
*) verify that you don't have any vacuum leaks around the base, gaskets, or shaft.
*) verify that you actually have a main jet installed in the holder
*) verify that the spring in the accelerator pump is in the carb body and not in the cover
*) check the accel pump linkage to see that it's depressing the diaphram and gas is squirting just as the throttle is advanced

Keep in mind that the carb may not be the problem. You've got a complete fuel system that should be verified before you can determine the exact cause.

I've fine tuned the Solex carbs on mine and am very satisfied with the way they run.

An alternative is the Weber manifold and carb conversion kit. I believe list is around $800 and you can find parts and pieces as well as the whole kit on ebay.

You'll get there, just keep plugging away at one thing at a time.
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Thanks for the replies guys! Yes Solex 44pai it has been rebuilt twice, once by my buddy but then he then tried to run it on old gas so I rebuilt it again myself. It did soak over night in carb cleaner. Rinsed it off with water and blew it out with compressed air. There is some oxidation in the bottom of the accelerator bore as well as the throat of the carb. Could this be a problem? I did put the spring in on both sides of the accelerator diaphragm and the results were the same, no slow throttle response. Could I be picking up crud off of the bottom of the tank? I took the line off of the tank going to the carb and sucked all the gas out with a siphon bulb (before the second rebuild). May not have got all the junk out and with no filter except for the screen in the accelerator pump check it may be back in the carb. I"ll go out there this morning and check the main jet. Again thanks for the help!
 

PiratePast40

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

You really need to verify that the accelerator pump is or is not pumping fuel. Have someone move the throttle forward while you watch the "candy cane" to see if it's squirting out fuel.

You also need to verify that fuel is getting to the carb. Is the bowl filling up?

If you have any doubts whatsoever about the condition of the fuel in the tank you can either try running with an aux fuel tank or install a cartridge type fuel/water separator.

As a last resort, you could go through the steps listed in the Adults Only section concerning lack of WOT.
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Well the wife said why not just buy a new carb? So I did! I shot carb cleaner around old carb and found multiple leaks on the carb body as well as the intake manifold. We have the manifold off and a new carb and manifold gasket on order. In case anyone else maybe interested in buying a remanufactured carb I ordered mine from http://www.flyingfishcarburetors.com/. I will let you know how it works out.
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Forgot to add we will be installing a fuel filter ahead of the pump before we even get the new carb!! May run from aux tank as well.
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

New intake gasket and fuel filter installed. Waiting for carb should ship next week.
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Got the carb last night, installed and started it in the yard. Ran a lot better so we splashed into Lake Orion about 7:45 last night. Perfect no wake cruising out of the launch, Also ran great at wot about 4500 rpm. Cruised around the lake until dark and spent over an hour at no wake speeds in the dark and it ran excellent. If you are having the problems listed in my earlier posts I would highly suggest buying a carb from these guys http://www.flyingfishcarburetors.com/. It cost me about $300.00 with base gaskets after core return. Wish I would have done this sooner! I will let you know if any other issues arise. Happy Boating!!
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

It has been a great project for me and my two sons! We were finally able to enjoy a trouble free cruise. Thanks for all your help. I am addicted to this forum now. I try to log in every morning and check out the new posts. Pretty interesting stuff!
 

BETZ954

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

Good thread occarves.!

i have the same engine and leg as you. and my 82 bayliner my be doing the same thing as yours.

if i run up to 2200rpms it bogs out then takes off to 3000 rpms. other than that it runs like new..

its not bad enough that i feel i need to spend a few hundred to fix it. an it dont seem to be getting any worse. but it would be nice to know what the problem is. maybe its an easy fix?. does this seem to be the trouble you had.

i was set on it being the vacume advance since mine doesn't even have a hose on it? but after reading your post now you got me wondering.....
 

occarvers

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

I also thought it was timing, I took my distributor apart to check the advance. These motors have a mechanical advance using flyweights. If you can twist the rotor and it springs back your advance should be working. Try spraying carb cleaner around the carb and intake and see it the idle changes if it does you have a vacuum leak. Have you rebuilt your carb? Mine was rebuilt twice by two different people and it still ran like crap. Not sure if the same kit was used but it leaked like a sieve . I even tried gasket maker on a couple of the gaskets to try to seal them. I know not a good thing to do on a carb but i was running out of options. The carb change is a simple job. Remove the flame arrestor, gas line, fuel pump return line, (clear plastic hose) throttle llinkage,and the four nuts at the carb base and the carb is off!(you will have to order two base gaskets with the carb there is a plate between the carb and the manifold with a gasket on either side) I installed my carb and once the lines were full of fuel it fired right up. The only adjustment I made was to lower the idle speed. Be sure to add an inline fuel filter before starting the engine. (may void warranty if you don't) I drained all my gas earlier in the season and I already have crap in the filter out of the tank. I hope this helps in getting you out on the water trouble free!! Good luck and let me know how it turns out.
 

JustJason

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Re: AQ 125 problems over 2000 rpm

I've gone through quite a few of the solex carbs. Nothing wrong with them really except the starting procedure is different. And like they the other guy said, they are absolutely, without a doubt, intolerant to any kind of internal restrictions/blockages.
It's amazing the engine packages didn't get shipped with fuel water sep filters.
 
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