No more than 12 mph

rock&reel

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can someone tell me why i can go no more than 12mph. i just paid a guy for rebuild my engine (aq125a) 1984 volvo penta when i get engine back we conect everyting try to stared, backfire (bad timingg) fix then put it back on the water same problem same speed find bad spark plugs fix. carb. rebuild fix. and still no more than 12 mph at 4500 rpm and now getting over heat can you guys tell what to look for now?
 

PiratePast40

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Re: No more than 12 mph

Have you checked the prop to see if the hub is spun? That's an inexpensive and conclusive test.
 

Howard Sterndrive

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Have you checked the prop to see if the hub is spun? That's an inexpensive and conclusive test.

for sure - I missed the 4500 rpm part - this is not an engine problem

ignore my nonsense about the timing belt

might also be trim angle (pin position), cone clutches slipping in the drive, check shift linkage
 

rock&reel

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Re: No more than 12 mph

thank you guys for reply what i have i put a smaller prop black one brand new not a volvo i m going to put a volvo prop. today and will run it saturday and find if thats the problem
 

jtmarten

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Re: No more than 12 mph

Disconnect the boat from the trailer??? j/k
 

mcleaves

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What kind of boat are we talking about here?

I had a 125 in 22' Bayliner Ciera Express Cruiser. Low 20's was about all you could expect with that boat. So depending on the size and weight of the boat you may not get very much speed.

BUT, 12mph is low no matter what. At that speed we are talking about not getting on plane, you are plowing. Weight distribution (too much on the stern - lose the 200 lbs of beer and ice from the transom!), trim tabs? What hole is the outdrive locking pin set to (there are three options on those drives). Is the hull clean?

If you are making RPM's and the prop is good your configuration is off. With a spun prop they will usually let go at a certain rpm and you'll be dead in the water and redlining. It won't continue to slip and allow you to press on (as in partially gripping).

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mcleaves

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...sure sounds like a spun coupler to me!!!

Aq125's and related series engines don't have a coupler, and the overheat wouldn't be because of the drive not turning. These raw water pumps are engine mounted. They pull water whether the drive is turning or not.
 

rock&reel

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Re: No more than 12 mph

the type of boat is a 20' trophy bayliner 1984 a guy toll me it could be a propeller isue so im going to change a new pro over the weekend to find out i will let you know what happen
 

6meter

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Could the boat be full of water? Soaked foam? It is 26 yrs old.
 

dingdongs

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have a look in the top of your outdrive and see if you have not damaged the gears.should be able to investigate before you launch it at the weekend
 

rock&reel

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how to check the outdrive to see if i damage the gears and check if the prop spund?
 

mcleaves

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how to check the outdrive to see if i damage the gears and check if the prop spund?

Forget the gears. if that were your problem you wouldn't be posting about getting up to 4500 and going 12. You'd be asking about the racket of your drive eating itself, and you wouldn't be going 12mph for very long. Drive gears are either engaged or not via the dog clutch, they don't slip. If the clutch is not fully engaged again you are going to hear quite a racket.

As for the spun hub, telltale signs are usually little beads of rubber around the inner splined hub. Best way to test is put a new prop on. Again I don't think it's the prop being spun. Once you apply enough torque to start it spinning you will usually fall off to no propulsion. It usually won't allow you to slip at a fixed rate and maintain any measurable speed. BUT a spare prop test is very quick to rule it out. It could also be you have too much prop on the boat. What size are you running? I still think you have a setup problem preventing you from getting on plane.

The trophy is still a sizable boat for that engine. That vintage is only 300 lbs lighter thank my old Ciera, and I can tell you, if the engine is not timed and tuned perfectly and your drive and tabs are not set properly you are going to plow water all day long. And if your prop is even off by one size you'll never get up on step. It's not just the weight. 20' of Deep V is a lot of water to push out of the way for that little engine.
 

rock&reel

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Re: No more than 12 mph

ok guys new prop. on the boat when out and test it i can go 20mph, easy just me in the boat. whent again today with boat load four people 15 mph. but can get no more than 3000 rpm. old prop 14x14. new prop 15x15 right hand so i will try to set time next week to see if thats an advance problem. we have some luck fishing do we caught 6 fish.
 
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mcleaves

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ok guys new prop. on the boat when out and test it i can go 20mph, easy just me in the boat. whent again today with boat load four people 15 mph. but can get no more than 3000 rpm. old prop 14x14. new prop 15x15 right hand so i will try to set time next week to see if thats an advance problem. we have some luck fishing do we caught 6 fish.

Again it's your setup. The 15X15 is likely too big, especially if you are only making 3000rpms (presuming your are tuned and timed). If you could plane on that alone then the 14x14 should have been no problem. Have you checked the pin setting on the drive as I mentioned. Most people set it in the middle hole but you might want to try the forward.

Where is the weight in the boat with those 4 guys. They shouldn't be on the stern when trying to get on plane. As I said, that is a small engine for that size boat and you need to do some juggling to get her up on plane
 
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