1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

JoshLibs15

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1990 FORCE L-Drive 120LD90C

Just purchased 1990 Maxum with a Force 120 L-Drive in it. Motor Had no spark, Found out had stator issues. (One of the 180V coils was dead) Replaced that now have spark on all 4 cyls. Bought new starter. New Spark Plugs. Had running once. Ran like a champ except the cyl. 4 port cover gasket blew out because somebody had the linkage off as well as the 2 bolts holding it. (therefore 1/2 the transfer port cover loose ran lean, backfired). Found bolts and replaced gasket. Never fired up right since. Now it just cranks (fast, no combustion) and when i give it the slightest bit of choke it stops the motor, not like a mechanical bind, but like over-advanced timing working the starter too hard. It works through the bind just not fast. Checked timing cleaned out fuel filter and carbs. (1 1/4 turns out on pilot screw) Even played with timing to have it as close to TDC as possible maybe a few degrees before but even at 0 degree but still once it gets a hint of fuel the motor stops turning. Can add a link to youtube video if it would help with the understanding of this slowing/stopping of the cranking. Marine battery bought new for this season from NAPA. Been using it in my Mercruiser 140 no problems. Float/Trickle charged when not in use.

What would let this motor take right off with a loose transfer port cover but now not start with properly timed spark on all 4 cyls, clean carbs, pump & filters??????????????

Using fuel from choke OR no fuel connected at all.... just mixed gas on a rag same problem...... Slowed/Stopped cranking. Using fuel cell to eliminate tank/gas issues too (Been sitting b4 I bought it) 50:1 mix

Anyone encounter this? Don't want to needlessly replace parts. Only idea I might have is we possibly wasted the new starter already and it cant power through the compression stroke when the gas ignites. Tried rope starting that was pretty funny :) Compression is def. there! HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP??

1990 Maxum FORCE L-Drive 120LD90C
 

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Do a comp test.If that's ok check the diaphram.J
 

JoshLibs15

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Checked compression, 140 across the board! Diaphragm is fine, what's next!?!?
 

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Backfiring normally tears the diaphram. Did you pull the pump after it backfired? Also, backfiring will sometimes shear the Woodruff key in the flywheel. When this happens, your timing goes all to hell.
 

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Woodruff key in the flywheel
 

JoshLibs15

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Woodruff Key was it, Thanks for the help friends!!
 

john from md

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Good for you! Now get out on the water.:D
 
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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

how do you pull the fly wheel to check to see if the keys is still good? i am having the exact same problem with my force as well.
 

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

You need to buy a gear puller. Sears sells them for a reasonable price. You need to loosen the nut with the engine in gear and someone holding the flywheel. Then you set up the puller and rap on the lead screw that is pushing on the crank shaft as you are turning. You want to rap more than turn so you don't strip the threads in the flywheel. Sometimes using a hair blower on the flywheel near the shaft helps.
 
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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

thanks john i was able to get the flywheel off with very little resistance. sure as can be the woodruff key is broke, im sure thats my problem. thanks again'


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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

It seems like a pain, but they are designed to be the weakest link, so you have to be thankful it sheared. Much cheaper than a sheared crank!
 

john from md

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Re: 1990 force 120 crankng stops/slows when given fuel???!!

Clean the egdes up if you need to before putting in a new key. Also, make sure the key fits snuggly. If it is loose, it breaks more often.
 
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