Is this the boat shops fault?

ellegoodms

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I took a 1991 Larson with a 5.0 (mechanical fuel pump) mercruiser alpha outdrive to the boat shop to have it swaped out with a 5.7 using all of my existing parts. After they ordered the engine switched eveything over they called and said they needed to put on an electrical fuel pump and all the fittings for $485(just for the fuel pump, lines and fittings). Did they screw up and order the wrong remanufactured motor? I thought they should have been able to order one to fit the mechanical fuel pump. If they screwed up the order how would you suggest I handle the situation?
 

LAC_STS

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

If they used all your existing parts then they probably only ordered a long block which doesnt come with a fuel pump.
 

thompy

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

newer blocks use the electric fuel pumps, so it is possible, I'm pretty sure you can get them either way
 

ellegoodms

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

If they used all your existing parts then they probably only ordered a long block which doesnt come with a fuel pump.


I understand it would not have come with a fuel pump, but couldn't they order an engine to go with the mechanical pump I already had?
 

LAC_STS

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

Depends on if the newer engine supported a mechanical one. I dunno if it does or not.


I would think the electrical one would be better anyways.


Maybe you can try to find one online cheaper and just have them put it on. ask them how much of the price they quoted you is labor then find one online and ask them to put it on. im sure you can find one online way cheaper than they are charging you.
 

jtmarten

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

Yes. They should have ordered the proper block, which I think is the Gen5 (with mechanical fuel pump) instead of the Gen6 block (no mechanical fuel pump boss).
They should give you a sweet deal on the fuel pump, or swap out the engine for one with an earlier generation block.
 

ellegoodms

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate the help. If they had ordered the right generation engine (5) I should not have had an issue with the fuel pump. That answeres my question.
Thanks for the replies.
 

rodbolt

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

mechanical fuel pump 5.7 GM blocks have been out of production almost 20 years.
if you buy a NEW long block you have to go electric.
you can still get some remanufactured mechanical pump stuff but its getting harder.
 

Kaplooi

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

Putting the cost aside for a moment I would agree that electrical is better vs mechanical. I was basically forced to switch to an electric pump when I upgraded my 4.3 to a 4bbl carb because the carb didn't have an overflow fitting for the diaphragm sight tube. In the process of replacing the pump and blocking off the boss on the block I noticed that the pump was very slowly allowing raw gas to leak into the block, thinning the oil dramatically which could have led to eventual bearing failure. The diaphragm was intact enough that the sight tube was dry so the problem was invisible. Also with the electric pump you have the option of adding an oil pressure safety shutoff switch should you lose oil pressure while motoring. Both of these benefits are unique to the electric pump. And I would argue they are more reliable than a mechanical pump if only because that little rubber diaphragm will stretch and contract millions if not billions of times during its service life and become increasingly dry and brittle over the years.

That said, it sounds like they're charging you retail plus a markup plus labor for all OEM parts. If you told them to just install the motor, transfer the accessories over and leave the fuel system alone you could definitely do the job for less yourself but that's a question of how much plumbing and wiring you feel like doing.
 

ellegoodms

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Re: Is this the boat shops fault?

I have found a few websites for remanufactured motors that ask you to specify if you have a mechanical fuel pump. I think I will take that info in when I pick up my boat and ask them to discount the labor and markup on the fuel pump. I really believe it was an ordering error on their behalf.
Thank you for all the great information.
 
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