Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

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The front axle is damaged on my tamdem trailer is it safe to travel back and forth to a boat ramp 3 blocks away?

the boat is a 22ft cuddy cabin it's a very small cabin
 

clarkbre

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

Sure it is. They only put those second axles in to hold 2 spare tires.

Seriously...think this one through. Don't you think the 2nd axle might carry about 45% weight of the boat?

I mean let's dumb this down a little more...10% tongue weight= 90% axle weight....90%/2= 45% total weight per axle.

So, it is safe to say that if your boat weighs 55% of what your trailer is rated to haul, then, yes, it's ok to do that....

But, don't forget your suspension will be screwed up because it is designed and made to rely and work on 2 axles with 4 tires.

Does this make sense?
 

Silvertip

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

To add a little more clarity to this issue, if by chance you should have an incident (accidents don't happen -- they are caused) you had better hope it is not with me. You will wish you had not left the yard with a trailer that is "known to have suspension issues". And if by chance you don't carry liability insurance, whatever stuff you do have will be mine. Incidents happen whether 3 blocks, 3 miles, or 300 miles from home. In fact insurance industry reports indicate that most accidents (there's that word again) happen within just a few blocks from home.
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

NO IT"S NOT OK.. Is it OK to drive your car with a missing tire and a skate board in it's place?
 

Utahboatnut

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

Is the traveling on public roads or your own private roads? If its your own road and no one is around to be involved you would probably be fine if you went slow and steady. If on public roads (even at 3 in the morning) you would be subject to a ton of liability if and WHEN something goes way wrong. Will the trailer handle it maybe, will you get anyone here advocating you try it out on public roads.. not a chance. Why not just repair the damage to the front axle or better yet just replace it...
 

rentprop1

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

the guy probably needs a way to remove the boat so he can make the needed repairs, I say go for it, slow and steady, if the ramp is that close and you absolutely need to remove it

anyone ever watch Sanford and Son growing up ...geesh :rolleyes:
 

reelfishin

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

I bought a trihull some years ago while on business in MO, I live in NJ. I got the boat for near nothing, it was on a tandem trailer with FL paperwork, the rear axle had lost a hub, bearings melted to the spindle, etc. The front axle was newer and in decent shape.
I called all around, there was no new axle anywhere to be found cheap, and the boat wasn't all that heavy. Besides, I was really after the motor only but since I was driving a company car, I didn't figure they'd appreciate a V6 outboard in the back seat.
The studs on both rear hubs were broken, and someone had spot welded the rims to the broken studs. I dragged the thing to a nearby gas station the next morning, gave the guy a $20 to borrow his oxy/acetylene torch and proceeded to cut the rims off around the drums. I tossed them and bald tires in the boat and headed for home. The thing towed fine, I got a lot of people passing me pointing back at the trailer, but after the first dozen or so, I just ignored them. The thing towed just fine, the front tires were good, the springs were in good shape. It's wheels however were also welded on, but they gave me no problems. I bought a cheap knock off set of bearing buddies and a grease gun at a tackle shop and pounded those on so I could give the thing a few pumps of grease every so often. It made it home just fine, about 880 miles or so. When I pulled back into where I work with the boat in tow, the boss really got a laugh at the fact that I towed a 19' boat on a rigged trailer nearly 1,000 miles behind a brand new Town Car. (His car got a hitch too soon after). The cars were leased so he didn't care what we towed, they just frowned on doing any cosmetic damage to them. My biggest concern coming home, especially through the hills along the PA turnpike, was stopping, the trailer had no brakes, never did, and the car had 4 wheel ABS. A sudden stop just wouldn't have been possible. At 80+ on the PA turnpike, that thing towed like it wasn't even there, but thoughts of 'What if' kept going through my head. What if someone ahead of me jammed on their brakes? It made me avoid following anyone at basically any distance. If I could read their tags, I backed off or passed them. I got a lot of funny looks that day, I guess they never saw a Town Car towing a boat?

Once I got it home, I did hang two new axles and four new hubs, wheels, and tires. The boat is gone, but the trailer is no beneath my Starcraft trihull.

If your only going a short distance, and the boat isn't so heavy it's about to blow out the two remaining tires, I'd say it would most likely work fine. It's hard to say without all the facts. The trailer and boat I hauled home would have easily gone on a medium sized single axle trailer with no problems, the tandem was overkill.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

The front axle is damaged on my tamdem trailer is it safe to travel back and forth to a boat ramp 3 blocks away?

the boat is a 22ft cuddy cabin it's a very small cabin

No !!!!:eek:
My opinion.
 

180shabah

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

NO WAY!!!

the guy probably needs a way to remove the boat so he can make the needed repairs

...so jack it up and pull the trailer out from under it. It's not that difficult.
 

JimS123

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

I bought a trihull some years ago while on business in MO, I live in NJ. I got the boat for near nothing, it was on a tandem trailer with FL paperwork, the rear axle had lost a hub, bearings melted to the spindle, etc. The front axle was newer and in decent shape.
I called all around, there was no new axle anywhere to be found cheap, and the boat wasn't all that heavy. Besides, I was really after the motor only but since I was driving a company car, I didn't figure they'd appreciate a V6 outboard in the back seat.
The studs on both rear hubs were broken, and someone had spot welded the rims to the broken studs. I dragged the thing to a nearby gas station the next morning, gave the guy a $20 to borrow his oxy/acetylene torch and proceeded to cut the rims off around the drums. I tossed them and bald tires in the boat and headed for home. The thing towed fine, I got a lot of people passing me pointing back at the trailer, but after the first dozen or so, I just ignored them. The thing towed just fine, the front tires were good, the springs were in good shape. It's wheels however were also welded on, but they gave me no problems. I bought a cheap knock off set of bearing buddies and a grease gun at a tackle shop and pounded those on so I could give the thing a few pumps of grease every so often. It made it home just fine, about 880 miles or so. When I pulled back into where I work with the boat in tow, the boss really got a laugh at the fact that I towed a 19' boat on a rigged trailer nearly 1,000 miles behind a brand new Town Car. (His car got a hitch too soon after). The cars were leased so he didn't care what we towed, they just frowned on doing any cosmetic damage to them. My biggest concern coming home, especially through the hills along the PA turnpike, was stopping, the trailer had no brakes, never did, and the car had 4 wheel ABS. A sudden stop just wouldn't have been possible. At 80+ on the PA turnpike, that thing towed like it wasn't even there, but thoughts of 'What if' kept going through my head. What if someone ahead of me jammed on their brakes? It made me avoid following anyone at basically any distance. If I could read their tags, I backed off or passed them. I got a lot of funny looks that day, I guess they never saw a Town Car towing a boat?

Once I got it home, I did hang two new axles and four new hubs, wheels, and tires. The boat is gone, but the trailer is no beneath my Starcraft trihull.

If your only going a short distance, and the boat isn't so heavy it's about to blow out the two remaining tires, I'd say it would most likely work fine. It's hard to say without all the facts. The trailer and boat I hauled home would have easily gone on a medium sized single axle trailer with no problems, the tandem was overkill.

Whose insurance were you carrying....yours or your company's?
 

oldjeep

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Re: Tandem trailor safe with 1 axle?

Doesn't seem like a good idea, especially of you have a normal tandem spring setup. The shackles and centerlink are going to do weird things without the 2nd axle in place.
 
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