1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

jrklar

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I installed a tach on my recently purchased 1974 starcraft with a 1982, 90hp tower of power. At wot, it runs about 36mph at 4900 rpms. Anything I can do to get a couple extra mph out of the boat? I would have thought rpms would have been a little higher and was hoping to get up to 40mph. I'd like to try some barefooting and with a couple of passengers on board might need a couple extra mph.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

4900 is not 'high' rpm for an Inline. If you drop down 2" in pitch on your prop, you'll likely pick up some speed as you increase rpm and get up into the power band.

Note that some older 90's had very small ports and will not rev much above 5000 rpm. Later 90's were actually a prop-rated 115 and should be very happy to wind up to at least 5400-5500 rpm.

Without a serial # we can't tell for sure what you have.

If you do notice that a lower-pitched prop doesn't produce much in the way of increased rpm or speed, you likely have the small-ported 90hp. The small intake & exhaust ports won't let the motor breathe enough to produce hp at any higher rpm. On the flip side, these motors have a lot of low-end torque and are quite thrifty on fuel.

HTH..........ed
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

thanks for the info - i will grab the serial number off the motor tonight and post it.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

the 'operating range' RPM for a 1982 90HP was 4500-5000 (from the Service Manual)
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

serial number is 6186537. i checked the manual as well and 4500-5000 is the recommended range. so am i maxed out at 36mph?
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

Just wanted to verify that you indeed do have a 1982,...you do.
What prop are you currently running?
Are you going to try barefooting from a lay down water start or by stepping off a single ski? I've done both and the lay down start takes less power than starting a single skier.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

currently have a 21" pitch prop on there. i'm actually planning on going off a kneeboard. might sound crazy and haven't done it in about 12 years, but i start out seated on a kneeboard (a little bit tricky to get up) and get outside the wake to where it is flatest and then have the driver open it up. put both feet in the water at once and stand up. easier said then done of course. i've actually never tried a deep water start or the step off one ski. a little scary going 30+ mph seated on knee board, but much more balanced putting both feet in the water at the same time.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

It's doing pretty good pulling a 21 pitch at 4900 rpm. I bet you could pick up a few rpm and speed with a 19". Worth a try, anyway. If you have a cooperative propeller shop nearby they may let you try a prop and return undamaged for a different pitch, if it doesn't work out.

BTW if you like kneeboarding you'd love wakeboarding, it's way more fun and easier on the knees! I'm 54 and still on the board, I need to get back in shape if I want to get up on a slalom ski again but can still ride the wakeboard.

We used to kneeboard as a diversion, if you have the type with an adjustable strap across the board, you can strap both legs in, then deep-water start that way. This works best on the hollow-type boards that tend to float a bit. It's fun jumping the wake but my knees can't take that anymore! Nice thing about the wakeboard is you're going much slower than a slalom ski, so it don't hurt so much when you crash! And lots more planing surface, you'd pop right up without too much strain.

For more serious watersports, you might want to drop down to an 18 pitch, which might work out better than a 17, since a 17" pitch could be a touch too small for the motor and limit your top speed. It'll pull like a tractor out of the hole, however, with the lower pitch.

It all depends on what this particular motor "wants" and the only real way to know is to experiment with different props. Every one is going to behave slightly different due to changes in pitch, rake, cup, diameter, etc. You can even have two props of the same size from different mfr's run differently. When you find one your motor really likes, you'll know!

Anyway, have fun in the water, I'm certainly looking forward to getting wet this weekend!....ed
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

Going off a kneeboard will work. Just make sure you either have a shorty wetsuit with TIGHT legs, or a full wetsuit or a long pair of jeans. High speed enema's are a good possibillity.
 

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Ah, using kneeboard to get up on the slalom, more fun! You might try starting on 2 skis then dropping one. That's how my brother and I learned to slalom, after a while progressed to deep water start with one foot dragging, then learned to start with both feet in the ski. Hardest part about dropping one is getting your free foot in the back binding, once you figure that out it's pretty easy. Have Fun!.........ed
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

I don't think you'll be able to barefoot with that engine. I think you'll need at least a 150 hp 2.0 liter V-6 for that.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

thanks for all the feedback. ed - i have actually tried wakeboarding and agree it's a blast. i have found that the key is to just go for it with the jumps, otherwise you'll end up just doing a nice nose dive. i might give the lower pitch prop a try, just to see what happens with it. i used to "barefoot" with a pair of flat sneakers going off on kneeboard years ago on a 15 ft with a 50hp merc o/b. of course i only weighed about 110 lbs at the time. surprised to hear that i would need to go all the way to a 150 to have a chance now. guess i won't know until i try - hoping to attempt it friday.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

Decreasing prop pitch does two things.It INCREASES rpms.youre already pretty much at "red line".a 1"pitch decrease will put you at @5150rpms.Also,it will LOWER your top speed,not increase it.It will give you more "holeshot"not speed.What i failed to read is what size,construction boat you have.16ft?18ft?fiberglass?aluminum?With a 17ft or bigger fiberglass constructed boat and 90hp,i would say 36mph is about all youll get and probably doing good to get that.Sometimes its just not in the cards to get more speed w/the boat you have w/out a re-power.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

the motor is on a 16ft starcraft american fiberglass boat. definitely pleased at 36mph so if i can't get more, so be it. purchased the boat on a whim and been very happy so far with how it runs and the fun it has brought to the family. if motor is rated 4500-5000, would increasing pitch potentially give me a couple more mph? i know i'll have to play the hole shot vs top speed game.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

No Inline Six Merc is 'redlined' at 5000 rpm. They are perfectly capable of running 6000 without harm, although I wouldn't run one at that speed for a very long time.

However, if this motor's power band does 'peak' at 5000 due to its inability to breathe, you may not gain much by 'propping down'. Your rpm might go up, but not speed. This would indicate that you're past your power curve. If, on the other hand, if both rpm and speed go up with a lower-pitched prop, you're indeed making more power by spinning 'er up a bit.

As I said before, the only way you're gonna know if a smaller prop will do anything for you is to try one.

Maybe pick up a used prop out of your local www.craigslist.org

There oughta be plenty of cheap Merc parts in your 'Boats' section.

HTH.........ed
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

i used to "barefoot" with a pair of flat sneakers going off on kneeboard years ago on a 15 ft with a 50hp merc o/b. of course i only weighed about 110 lbs at the time. surprised to hear that i would need to go all the way to a 150 to have a chance now. guess i won't know until i try - hoping to attempt it friday.

Let me clarify. First of all, I have been around boats and skiing all my life. I was skiing and pulling my dad on skis when I was 9 years old. I have never seen anybody barefoot behind any boat with less than 150 hp. They make boats specifically for barefooting (ironically called barefoot boats) that always come with V-6 outboards because they are faster than inboard ski boats but retain the nice wake characteristics.

There is a formula for barefooting (skier weight/10)+20= minimum mph but that has to be really optimistic and only with a side boom and short line.
 

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Re: 1982, 90hp merc - 36mph at 4900rpm - can i get more?

You and me both Dave1027 - I live in CT and got my boating license when I was 9 yrs old. Old enough to drive, but not old enough to be an observer - still laugh about that to this day. Our small 50hp merc could get up to about 27 mph so a bit short of the required speed per your calculation but believe me, I was able to do it. Certainly not looking to be an expert barefooter, just successful enough to get up and stay up for a little bit.
 
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