14hp + mc366

ronaldj

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Ok... So.... If you were in my position... What would be the first thing you do? BTW.... The boat is actually rated for up to 30hp on the plate.... Boats to go said 9.9 but this isn't moving even close to how the one on their website is Don't get me wrong, I'm not miserable with it but I want it to live up to it's potential
There is no way your boat can be rated for 30hp. Please understand that the difference between the weight of a 2 stroke motor and the weight of a 4 stroke motor is HUGE! When deciding on a motor you should decide based on what weight the transom can hold . For example : If your transom weight is 90 pounds that limits you to a 9.9hp 4 stroke motor or a 15 or 20hp 2 stroke motor.
 

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Also remember that North America is a very small part of the Rib and Sib market. With that being said it is North America that has the 4 stroke regulations. The great majority of the world is 2 stroke country.
 

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There is no way your boat can be rated for 30hp. Please understand that the difference between the weight of a 2 stroke motor and the weight of a 4 stroke motor is HUGE! When deciding on a motor you should decide based on what weight the transom can hold . For example : If your transom weight is 90 pounds that limits you to a 9.9hp 4 stroke motor or a 15 or 20hp 2 stroke motor.
I don't doubt the weight issue.... But that's what the plate says....I never had intentions of putting that on there!
 

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I don't doubt the weight issue.... But that's what the plate says....I never had intentions of putting that on there!
Isn't this the boat we are talking about MC365 Technical Specifications: Exterior Length 12' Exterior Width 80" Interior Width 40" Tube Diameter 20" Shipping Size 52x28x14" Shipping Weight 130 lbs Person Capacity 5 Weight Capacity 1400 lbs Chambers 4+1 Material 1100 Denier PVC Air Valves Halkey-Roberts type valve by Naru Max. Engine Capacity 9.9HP Inflation time up to 10 min. Color Light Gray or Green * specifications are subject to change.
 

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Isn't this the boat we are talking about MC365 Technical Specifications: Exterior Length 12' Exterior Width 80" Interior Width 40" Tube Diameter 20" Shipping Size 52x28x14" Shipping Weight 130 lbs Person Capacity 5 Weight Capacity 1400 lbs Chambers 4+1 Material 1100 Denier PVC Air Valves Halkey-Roberts type valve by Naru Max. Engine Capacity 9.9HP Inflation time up to 10 min. Color Light Gray or Green * specifications are subject to change.
Here is the plate.... What am I missing?
 

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mrdrh99

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I went up one hole on trim and got her on a plane this morning at 16mph.... I'm happy with that.... Need to get my other sitting in place.... Won't plane while on the bench.... I had to squat in the middle and then once on a plane I was fine on the bench..... I'm happy!
 

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Saturn likes overpowering their sibs more than any other Asian brand sib. A 30 HP is scary at wot for that size 365 sib. Should be rated at max 20 HP whether being 2 or 4 strokes engines, provided that tubes are top inflated to achieve transom top rigidity, It's only 10 + Kg more to same 2 strokes versions.

Happy Boating
 
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mrdrh99

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Sea rider... I agree... No way would I do a 30.... For this boat i'm happy with my 14.... May need a bit of fine tuning getting up on a plane but I'm happy.... I think more than anything it's getting the correct load balance
 

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Here is the plate.... What am I missing?
You are not missing anything. That has to be misprint from the OEM. I think that Boats to Go is trying to cover there butt by putting the real specs on the website. Glad you got your trim issue fixed
 

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I believe you need to tach that motor, as the rig should be faster with one on board. A 15 pushed a 14 ft vee bottom x 5 ft beam rounded chine fiberglass boat around 21 or so MPH with two people and a 65 lb dog on board in tests we ran several years ago which was much heavier than the inflatable. However, inflatables can have a lot of drag at speed. The 15 HP used the same power head as the 14 HP.

A 6 HP with my wife and daughter, probably 260 lb on board an 11 ft Zodiac x 5 ft beam ran roughly 15 MPH. That was an 100 lb boat and smaller than your rig though. They were on full plane which surprised me. The 6 HP used a pin drive prop and not a thru hub.

Once again I would think Sea Rider's info on setting up a motor would be helpful.
 

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My SaturnSD 365 plate says it's rated for 30 hp also On edit, I think someone miss stamped your plate.
 
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Sea Rider

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Just for the record, you said you've moved one trim hole, does your engine remains at 90 angle when on plane at speeed while cat rides parallel to water level ?

Your case is bit different, you have a mini cat, not a standard sib, cats needs slight more HP, more drag issues to overcome fast, that's why tech plate states 30 HP. Anyway 30 is for carrying max passengers, not your case. If remaining up to medium loaded a 20 HP shoud perform satisfactorily.

On posted video, the engine sounds like it's lugging, puts tremendous effort to plane that sib out. If plan staying with current engine, install tach and go alone for a full grip throttle spin on same flat water course, check achieved max wot numbers, Could maximize prop to achieve better performance, but there's an issue, (gee, there's always an issue) you don't know current number stamped on that prop from which to go, will need a less pitch prop to rev up your current wot numbers for that cat to plane faster. Begin taching that engine, need to know achieved wot numbers to start with.

That's why was suggesting getting a used healthy 15 HP engine and prop, will have lots of prop pitches to play with and take the full HP out of that engine.

Happy Boating
 
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mrdrh99

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I def agree on the motor working too hard to get on plane.... Once on plane it sounds much better.... Would love to try a tach and different prop. Sea rider... Any recommendation on a tach without breaking the bank?
 

fbpooler

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Pull the prop and examine it closely, as the prop size is stamped on it if it is an OMC prop. Just remove the cotter pin and nut and it comes off.

There is a range of props in 1 in increments available for the motor, so finding a prop would be no problem.

We have a Tiny Tach, but I believe Sea Rider recommended another cheaper alternate recently which he has experience with.
 

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Personally have tried Tiny Tach and Hardline, the latter is much more friendly to install, has just one pick up wire that can be trimmed to have the least wire leftovers once a proper engine spot has beeen found as opposed to TT.

Chopperbill has recently purchased a Hardline Tach for $ 27 at Amazone, much less than what's priced at Hardline's web page.

Happy Boating
 
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@mrdrh, You said you can plane as long as you have weight in the front. I had a similar issue. it took me like 10-15 seconds to plane. I mounted my gas tank to the front of the boat and it fixed all my planing weight issues. People say a long fuel line is not a good idea because its a longer delivery from the tank to the outboard but mine runs with no problem. In your case you have an open bow so i would just mount it in front of me. all i did was used a bungy cord and tied it to the handle and one of the front anchor ties
 

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None of the min mats are rated for more than 9.9 hp. Some must of stamped it 30hp thinking it was an SD365 MC365 Technical Specifications: Exterior Length 12' Exterior Width 80" Interior Width 40" Tube Diameter 20" Shipping Size 52x28x14" Shipping Weight 130 lbs Person Capacity 5 Weight Capacity 1400 lbs Chambers 4+1 Material 1100 Denier PVC Air Valves Halkey-Roberts type valve by Naru Max. Engine Capacity 9.9HP Inflation time up to 10 min. Color Light Gray or Green
 

Chopperbill

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Sorry for the confusing post. Forum still doesn't not allow iPads to make paragraphs.
 
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