1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

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Hello all, my friend has a 1992 four winns with a omc cobra 3.0, found the block and intake are cracked. I was told I could use a chevy 2.5 engine block out something like a S-10 pickup and punch it. Does anybody know if this will work or what I can use instead of spending 3000.00 for a short block. I have a friend that has a salvage yard and can get a 2.5 CHEAP. Also if anybody would have a used intake for this let me know, but any help on what blocks I can use would be helpful. thanks.<br /><br />Dean
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

Sure you can...it won't work as the engines are completely different, but be my guest.<br />The 3.0 block was NEVER used in a car or truck ...it's an industrial engine.
 
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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

I know it was never used in a auto, but from what I remember of the 2.5, and looking at his boat engine the bolt patterens are the same for mounting it on the rear so I didnt know if anything else is different or not. the head looks like it is the same as far as bolt pattern and such. I thought I would throw this out there and see if anybody knows about it or not. I understand the 3.0 is industrial and marine ONLY. but thank you.
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

There is a Marine 2.5 liter as well as a 3 liter engine. (I think they were identified as 120 hp and 140 hp respectively). In my dad's Sportcraft, it came with a 3 liter originally and the block was replaced with a 2.5 liter. They look very similar on the outside. As I understand it, the 2.5 liter was used in a car, but which ones? I don't know. But I do know you can interchange the two.<br /><br />Can you use the 2.5 liter block you have access too? I don't know, I'm sure someone will chime in shortly.
 

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the head looks like it is the same as far as bolt pattern and such.
The 2.5l Auto motor uses a Cross-Flow head,...... <br />The Marine motor has Both the Intake,+ Exhaust on the Same Side of the Head.........<br /><br />The Dist. is in a Different place as well.......<br />And,... The Auto motors are Side mounted Motor Mounts,....The Marine Motor's motor mount is on the Front of the Block....<br /><br />Totally Different Castings,........ As far as I know,.... The Only Thing they share is the Bellhousing Bolt Pattern..........<br />It's the Same as Any Other Chevy................... ;)
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

1962 thru 1970 Chevy II the only car application of the 2.5 <br />3.0 never used in a car
 
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thanks for the input there guys, i know the s10 pickups came out with the 2.5 in the 80's. pretty much everything looks the same but the mounts but i think i can redo them. I am useing the head off my 3.0 that is good and just had it redone. hopefully this works out for me. any other suggestions please let me know.
 

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I love it when posters come here asking for "advice", then go forward with whatever plan they concocted prior to posting, regardless of the advice.....
 
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well i have had the advice that it will never work, and I have been advised it will work...so I figure the best is to put the two blocks side by side and look at the differences. If it works I will definetly tell ya if it does. thanks
 

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thanks for the input there guys, i know the s10 pickups came out with the 2.5 in the 80's. pretty much everything looks the same but the mounts but i think i can redo them.
Originally posted by Bondo:<br />
the head looks like it is the same as far as bolt pattern and such.
The 2.5l Auto motor uses a Cross-Flow head,...... <br />The Marine motor has Both the Intake,+ Exhaust on the Same Side of the Head.........<br /><br />The Dist. is in a Different place as well.......<br />And,... The Auto motors are Side mounted Motor Mounts,....The Marine Motor's motor mount is on the Front of the Block....<br /><br />Totally Different Castings,........ As far as I know,.... The Only Thing they share is the Bellhousing Bolt Pattern..........<br />It's the Same as Any Other Chevy................... ;)
Ayuh,................<br /><br />I Just Love,......... Wasting My Time.............. :rolleyes: <br /><br />Just for the Record,......... The 2.5l engine used in the S-10s is Absolutely,... Totally Different.............<br />Except,.....<br /> "The Only Thing they share is the Bellhousing Bolt Pattern"...................<br />
If it works I will definetly tell ya if it does. thanks
Okee Dokee,........ Good Luck........... :rolleyes:
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

Sandman - the GM engine used in marine applications is, as Bondo said, completely different from the 2.5 motor you intend to compare side-by-side. For about 5 years, between 1990 and 1994, Mercruiser, in particular, used the 2.5L head on the 3.0 block, but that's because (my privately held opinion) they had a surplus of 2.5L heads when GM went to the 3.0 block. There is no recorded successful application of the 3.0L marine head to a 2.5 truck block - why would you want to reduce the displacement of your marine motor just for the sake of saving a few bucks? Besides, I sure wouldn't risk my newly-rebuilt head on the kind of boondoggle you're proposing. You can get the correct 3.0L marine short block or bare block for CHEAP if you just search a bit (Google, Dogpile, whatever, or go to www.rebuilt.com and ask Dave about his bare blocks), so why waste your time (and ours) with the vain attempt to match up the truck block to which you keep referring?<br /><br />BTW - there's a LOT of experience floating around here, particularly with guys like Bondo, Don S and Rodbolt, to mention a few. We're, frankly, not interested in whether or not your little experiment works, as you clearly don't understand, and apparently are intent to remain ignorant of, the nature of the marine vs. auto conflict when it comes to proper application of marine parts and equipment.
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

not to disagree but the 2.5 in my son's jeep looks identical to an 3.0 down to filter location and distributor location don't know about the bellhousing and all. also the head is not cross flow but rather both on same side
 

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crazyray, like its been posted, AMC did use the 2.5 153 CID GM motor in several applications. one was the mail jeeps. loop 820 Jeep in Ft Worth was a good source of used parts in the early 80's. however I dont think they used it past 78 or 79.<br /> the 2.5L 151 only shares corperate parentage with the 2.5 153.<br /> the pontiac designed 2.5L 151 CID "Iron Duke" motor shares only GM corperate parentage with the 2.5L 153 CID chevrolet designed motor. that and both displace about 2.5 liters.
 

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Re: 1992 omc cobra 3.0 cracked block, can i use a chevy 2.5 auto block???

you know, i have the same problem with my cracked 3.8. I came to this forum site because it was highly recommended. I'm annoyed that ppl who come here for advice are talked down to. the whole point to having a boating forum is to get advice, different points of view, and ideas, not to hear some "lieutenant" talk crap.

thanks guys..
 

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WhenD,

You should start your own thread with your problem. You will get a lot more people responding to you that way.
 

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I came to this forum site because it was highly recommended. I'm annoyed that ppl who come here for advice are talked down to.

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard WhenD,...

iboats is Highly recommended for getttin' the Absolute Best Facts about your boat, motor,+ drive....
It's usually only the people who Don't get the answers they were Lookin' for,... That complain...

Fact Is, in this 4 Year Old thread,... That motor Swap, Still won't work.....;)
 

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Bring on the TROLLS!!!!
 
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