1999 Stingray 190RS Restoration

[Boisebiker]

All of the fiberglassing material and gelcoat showed up last week while I was in San Antonio. Now I need to find the time and guts to start the process. I am a little more nervous to start the glass work than I was to cut holes in my deck.
I need to start with filing the holes and gluing/screwing the deck back down with 5200. Then move on to repairing the large hole I cut in the floor to remove the wet foam. Next is to fill the void with pour in foam and then glue all the pucks back in place with peanut butter. After giving the whole deck a good sanding I can begin putting a final layer of CSM down to give the deck a better finish. 2 coats of gelcoat with milled walnut shells between and the deck should be done. Does anyone see any flaws in this process?

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Sounds like you have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.

 

[Boisebiker]

No time to do anything with the boat and now the temperature has started falling. I am concerned that it will be to cold to finish the floor. Marching band for the kids is kicking our butts. Have only had the Bayliner out 1 weekend in the past month. And it does not look any better for the next month.

 

[chevymaher]

No time to do anything with the boat and now the temperature has started falling. I am concerned that it will be to cold to finish the floor. Marching band for the kids is kicking our butts. Have only had the Bayliner out 1 weekend in the past month. And it does not look any better for the next month.

I hear you. Everytime I got the cover off the boat. It is filling with falling leaves now. It is coming fast. Cub scouts picking up and taking time. Use up the last of the glass I got I think that is it for the season as far as glassing weather. It is getting cool fast. Get the rest of the deck in the spring. Start running wires and buffing things that are not so weather dependent.

 

[Boisebiker]

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Could not help myself. After I cut the holes thru the stringers next to the transom I was noticing moisture on the starboard side. If you remember back I opened up the port side next to the engine to remove wet foam. So I got out the saw and opened up the starboard side next to the engine and guess what, wet foam. I performed the same operation, remove all wet foam. Now it has a fan on it to dry it out. I have not found any corresponding rot in the stringers, and I have looked. All in all the fiberglass work is very sound but after years of sitting without a cover water found its way into the outer sealed cavities of the hull and made its way to the rear where there was no exit. I will be installing PVC pipe through the stringers in rear for a water exit.

 

[Boisebiker]

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After riding in a 2003 Wake Setter I have decided to change the floor plan of my Stingray. After some research it seems that Stingray started using this floor plan a few years ago. Sun deck over engine, stairs on port side of engine and a bench that wraps around the interior. So taking these new modifications into consideration I have completed the new interior. Just a few more refinements and it will be ready for splash.

 

[Boisebiker]

In all seriousness, we have decided that since we have to reupholster the whole interior we might as well make it into what we want. This provides tons of storage, seats for everyone and actually gives more room to walk around. With the stairs we wont have people climbing over the seats and sun deck every time we swap riders. I plan to add a removable pad over the steps to extend the sun deck to full width of boat. It will definitely add time to the restore but will add functionality and value to the boat. If it all goes well it will get a wake tower next spring.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Best thing about your design is when you wanna go fishin', just fold up all the chairs and throw 'em on the dock. Bang.....convertible fishin' boat.

 

[Boisebiker]

I would have to buy a fishing pole first.

 

[Boisebiker]

Been prepping for the glass work and had an idea. I do not really want to work with a gallon can of resin every time I need a few ounces. My resin came in a gallon can like a paint can, very hard to work with in small batches. I was wondering if I transferred the resin to a plastic jug that has a hand pump on it, like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gallon-Jug-w...26.m2548.l4275. Will the jug hold up to the polyester resin? Will the pump hold up to the resin? How long before the resin starts to cure in the pump making it useless? This way I can meter out how ever much I need without opening up the container.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

If it were me I would forget the pump. Unless it's one that is chemical resistant, very chemical resistant, the styrene will eat it fast.

 

[chevymaher]

Don't laugh I use a mason jar for that. I keep the waxed resin in.

 

[kcassells]

US composites sells the pump mechinism seperate for their fiberglass product. They worked and last but I found them inconvenient.

 

[Boisebiker]

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Finally found a couple hours to work on the boat with temps over 70?. This is my first time working with polyester so I was taking it slow. I needed to coat and glass 6 pieces of wood that will be the patches for the holes I cut in the deck. I mixed up an 8 oz batch. I thought I could wrap the .75oz CSM around the edges of the plywood but soon found that to be a foolish idea. So I glassed the top and bottom and just coated the edges with resin. At about the 8th minute the batch shot off and gelled up. It was hard in another 2-3 minutes so I lost half that batch(pic 3). I mixed up another 8oz with less hardener and finished the 2 larger pieces. All of the parts cured well and I trimmed the edges. I used about 2x the amount I thought I would need so I am not sure this gallon will do the whole job.
Next is to glass the parts into the boat floor and then fill the cavities with pour foam.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

That last pic looks like a modern art masterpiece, lol. CSM is nearly impossible to get to turn a corner. 1708 is much more forgiving. Some guys pull and tear at the CSM along an edge to get it to lay down. I used plastic sheeting and clamps to hold it down along the edges of my stringers. It worked pretty well.

 

[Boisebiker]

Does the polyester not stick to most plastic sheeting? I was thinking about using wax paper but was afraid the extra stuff would further complicate the process, it was messy enough for my first time.
Temps are below 60 during the day and are showing no signs of coming up. Looks like I will have to move my Bayliner out of the garage and put the Stingray in if I hope to get any more work done on it.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Nope, polyester resin will not stick to the plastic film. You can stretch it pretty tight, which you can't do with wax paper.

 

[Boisebiker]

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Finally got the boats moved around. Bayliner is in back yard all covered up and winterized. Stingray actually fit in the garage. Also I included pics of the patches on my floor. Now I need to cut holes in the patches to put pour-in-foam into the cavity. Then sand it down and clean for single layer of CSM across the whole floor.

 

[Boisebiker]

So I took the Stingray out to the lake on Saturday. It was pretty cold but no ice on the lake. That also means no patrol which is important because I have not registered the boat yet.
It fired up and took a few minutes to warm up. Carb definitely needs to be rebuilt could hardly get it into gear without dying. I did get it off the trailer and was able to drive around some. I found that the accelerator pump was working but the midrange jets were plugged. With the right application of throttle I could get it on plane and drive around at about 3200rpm. While I am glad it can get out of its own way I still don't have enough confidence that it is running right. Looks like a carb kit is in order and maybe some fresh fuel(tank has fuel of unknown age in it). Another trip to the lake before it freezes and hopefully gain enough confidence to sink money into the upholstery. If the engine does not run right then it will be engine rebuild time. I may even be able to pull the cam from the spare engine I picked up.
One other thing of note is that the boat felt tail heavy. Aft end just seemed to sit low all the time. No gear or seats in front of boat may have contributed or this hull is just designed that way. I did find that the trim is very sensitive. Down trim drags a lot on plane and up trim will not come onto plane from stop(bad carb does not help). Very different than my Bayliner.

 

[V153]

Odd. My lil bro has an '01 19' Stingray with the 4.3. And that thing runs every bit of 53 or 54 mph with a light load. They call it the "Z plane" hull btw. Smoke any boat in it's class with comparable power.