Is it worth sinking money into???

reddog349

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I just purchased a 1974 starcraft 18' holiday with a 1981 shorline trailer and a 1977 70 hp evinrude (claims rebuilt few years back) for $750. I got the boat because I figure it was plenty cheap and the boat and the original interior are in good condition for its age .Plus its deep enough for my young boys.<br /><br />Is it worth sinking more money into this boat?I want to get a larger motor (up to 140 hp) get a bimini top , new seats (old ones are ugly) , and update the interior with new material that isnt yellow.<br />Ive priced things and it isnt going to be cheap .
 

Bondo

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

That boat is as deprecated as it's going to get.......<br /><br />In Excellent Running Condition,.. It'll Always be worth $1500./$2000. sitting on it's trailer,.. Ready To GO......<br /><br />Atleast in the Spring of the year,.... In the Fall,.. It'll Always be worth $500./$1500.<br /><br />You've got to be the 1 who Decides if it's Worth It... ;)
 

JasonJ

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

If you like the boat and it will do what you need it to do, then it will be worth it. If you are thinking that you will ever get more or at least break even if you go to sell, then it will not be worth it. Boating and making money are mutually exclusive, so that should never be a factor. If, after you do all your work and spend your money, you and your family get years of good service and good times from it, then it is always worth it. Just depends on how you look at it. Go price a new equivelant, then you will see how worth it it actually is. Good luck...
 

reddog349

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Bondo , Jason-<br />The reason I got this boat was I noticed I could get a nice larger used motor at a great price in my area and I figured no matter how bad the boat gets as long as it floats I can replace the motor .I also like its size and the fact its built like a tank (very sturdy).I have priced new boats and gear and ouch!!!.<br />thanks for the advice<br />reddog
 

reddog349

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

BOATS -Latin for hole in water
 

reddog349

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by the way Jason thanks for your service to our country!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Chinewalker

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

I look at it this way. If I wanted a new boat, I could take out a loan and pay for it for the next 10-15 years and pay upwards of $25,000 by the time it's paid back.<br /><br />Or, I can rebuild and refurbish an older hull - making it virtually new when I'm done (and likely better than it ever was new) with new interior, new seats, new transom, floor, stringers, wiring, etc. and when I'm done I've got a boat that I've put $1500-$2000 or so into and it's PAID FOR. And, like I said, it's virtually new by most measures, so it'll last at least as long as the other boat, and probably be worth about the same at the end of what would have been the loan term for the first boat. Plus, I enjoy the process of rebuilding the boat. The hours I spend working on restoring a boat would have to be spent "working" to pay for the "new" boat, which won't be anywhere near new when I'm STILL paying for it 10 years from now.<br /><br />Another factor I take into account is there are simply VERY few family runabouts being made right now that I would ever consider owning. Too funky looking for my tastes. I'm more of a clean, sharp, traditional lines kinda guy. And, at 6'4", I can customize placement of seats, throttle, etc. to suit my frame.<br /><br />And, finally, my wife is a fairly new boater, still learning the ropes on docking, etc. A rebuilt older hull will probably have the odd "beauty mark" or two built-in already so you don't have that shock over the first ding in your brand new boat. She is improving though...<br /><br />- Scott
 

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Depends on how much pleasure you get out of doing that sort of thing, reddog.<br /><br />If you love doing it, like Scott and me, it is worth some bux. <br /><br />If you look at it as drudgery to get a better boat then I say it isn't worth it.
 

Indymike

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Nothing better than seeing where you've been. Any swingin' Joe can go out and buy a new boat on 120 easy payments, but if you enjoy the journey as much as the destination then the resto is "worth" it. Be prepared for the project to fully consume your thuoghts ,free time and pocketbook. Don't let the global view overwhelm you though. Make lots of smaller goals and work towards them. "inch by inch". Great experience and you will intimately know your vessel.
 

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Reddog, from another point of view here, I was in the same boat as you(no pun intended). I thought it would be really expensive to restore a boat. That's not necessarily true, though. The vast majority of money that I spent in my last resto was spent on tools that I didn't have previously. A full resto now probably wouldn't cost me in excess of 1500 bucks or so, and that includes paint. Learn to do your own minor upholstery jobs. Discover things like ebay and craigslist.com There are a lot of deals to be had out there, just as there are a million boats sitting in backyards, just waiting for someone to come along and offer to tow it away. You can restore that boat a lot cheaper than you think, with a little ingenuity, a ton of research, and a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. Good luck.
 

JasonJ

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If you can get a larger motor fo a reasonable cost, and can redo everything else at a decent cost, it is worth it. I could have bought a pretty decent boat for the money I put into mine, but the thing is I know this boat, I don't have to worry about possible rotten stringers or any of that. Plus, I have been able to improve things over time as the money comes, and like Chine said, it is paid for.
 

Mark42

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Reddog,<br /><br />I have spend quite a bit on refurbishing my old boat. The good news is that you can get your boat insured for your stated value. The insurance company will want photographs as proof of condition. It is also a good idea to document the before and after condition of your boat just for your own records. <br /><br />As an example I have a $5000 total loss policy on my '65 MFG that otherwise is only worth a few hundred dollars. State Farm asked for some pictures of motor, boat and trailer. So I took the pictures and e-mailed them to my agent. A week or two later I had a policy. Because this boat is a trailer queen, it only costs $100 a year including 100/300k liability. Cheap insurance against sinking or theft of your investment.
 

jshoes52

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Reddog, does the boat run in "as is" condition? If so, I would use it for a season and see how much you like it before putting the money into it. I've been buying fixer-uppers for several years thinking each one would end up as my forever boat. But guess what? The kids got bigger, then they wanted to ride a tube, then they wanted to waterski, then I found the ocean more enjoyable than the lakes, etc etc. Usage patterns change, and chances are, you'll be wanting a different (bigger, faster) boat within 3 years. And as someone already pointed out, a boat that age, even with new seats, paint etc, is still worth a given amount. So use it for a season unless you can pick up some used seats on ebay or a salvage yard.
 

79Starcraft

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Reddog,<br /><br />Starcraft aluminum boats last a life time if properly maintained as do most boats. I think fixing up the boat is fairly easy and may not be as expensive as you think especially if you do most of the work yourself. And you do not have to do a full restore, just replace what you need or have budget for.<br /><br />One of my friends completly transformed his Starcraft replacing most everything, but I know he looked for deals for all his stuff and he said most of the work was easy because of the way that these boats are built. <br /><br />I have not done too much to my boat because of money, so I had to compromise with what I have. I have some plans in the future, but right now my boat is very nice for anything.<br /><br />Chris
 

bigbad4cyl

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

i think it will be expensive ...once the do it right the first time ,,it is my boat bug sets in .....between the boat and the trailer and the canvas etc....
 

reddog349

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Re: Is it worth sinking money into???

Well I price a bimini top - $525 for a custom bimini and frame .Ouch with seats ive double the cost of my boat lol! Ive been looking in back yards for deals on parts as Swimmin' for shore said and did find a exact twin to my boat but have yet to get ahold of the owner .Ill try to get a picture of the boat so everyone can get a idea of what im talking about.
 
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