transom saver

Richok

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Can someone tell me the differences in transom savers? I think the way my trailer is built I would have to use an over the roller type. I have looked at Academy sport,Wal-Mart, Bass-Pro. There is price difference, but just looking I can't tell much else. Is there a better place to look? <br /><br />Thanks
 

PAkev

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Re: transom saver

Here's a link you might be interested in checking out:<br /><br /> http://www.m-ywedge.com/ <br /><br />I asked a similar question a few days ago on the outboard message board and decided to give it a try.<br /><br />Kevin
 

jtexas

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Re: transom saver

Looks to me like that doesn't transfer any weight or shock from the transom to the trailer. Any engineers or physicists around to give an opinion?
 

Richok

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Re: transom saver

Looks like it would be a good thing.Thanks for the web-site.
 

quantumleap

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Re: transom saver

jtexas- exactly! that isn't a transom saver at all. Just a trim saver. The whole weight of the outboard is still on the transom and that wedge doesn't take any of the stress off the transom. Most outboard manufactures recommend either trailering with the motor all the way down, or if that is not possible due to clearance, then a transom support device extending from the lower unit to the trailer should be used. There is a section in my merc manual stating this and I've seen a similar recommendation in Johnson/Evinrude manuals.
 

dingbat

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Re: transom saver

Ae you trying to tell us that the transom can't support the weight of a motor? One good stuffed wave at 40 mph and the transom would break in half and the the motor would fly off and hit you in the head. Come on.....
 

quantumleap

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Re: transom saver

I always suggest following the recommendations in the manual. I also personally believe that more direct force is applied to the transom when trailering. The water acts as a cushion to the lower unit of the engine when jumping waves, thus absorbing some of the force to the transom.<br /> Dive off the high board into the water. Now drain the pool and dive off the high board. Which scenerio exerts the most impact to your body?? I realize this is a exagerated example, but theorectically significant.
 

jtexas

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Re: transom saver

Dingbat has a point, the transom is made to withstand a beating. It probably will last many years without a transom saver, and the T/S might not extend it's useful life significantly.<br /><br />But although the transom will support the weight, it will flex with every bump, and weaken with every flex, and when trailering you have the trailer right there to absorb some of the shock, so why not use it. <br /><br />And, not only does the water absorb shock, as quantumleap so graphically illustrated, but at 40mph the motor is in the down position, and will exert vertical force, but not horizontal force like when it's tilted up for towing and the center of gravity is shifted out and away from the boat. Try to break a pencil by pushing the ends towards each other (not a sharpened pencil!). Now put your thumbs in the middle and push out against your fingers.<br /><br />That's just my perspective; wonder if the transom saver concept really has engineering data to back it up or if it's just one of those clever marketing ploys?
 

kd6nem

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Re: transom saver

Too many variables here- but the forces upon the motor & transom while in the water and on the trailer are significantly different in vector angle, duration, and total force. (No I'm no engineer, I just know enough to be dangerous! :D ) And the boat is powered by a sustained net thrust with a large torsional moment (which the boat is designed for) which does not happen on the trailer. It is not a fair comparison between the two. Furthermore, it depends on the speed and surface in either case, as well as weight of the entire setup. Add trailer suspension variables to it to. Please do not ask me to come up with formulas and mathmatical explanations- I'll leave that to the real engineers and physicists. <br />Bottom line- 1. both have their stresses and strains. 2. Depends on how hard you hit.<br />3. Total forces might be greater while on the water, but forces while trailered may be much sharper at times. Quantum's point is well taken here. The boat will tolerate a level of each- but short duration impulses ARE significantly different in nature than a slower, drawn out force. Often, with many types of objects the sharper impulses do the greater damage. A lousy example might be dropping a light bulb from three feet onto concrete versus dropping it from six feet onto a cushion. Onto a cushion it will have a lot more energy total though the decelleration is much less intense- the impact is spread out over a longer period. <br />So the m-y wedge may slow the impulse and be helpful, though the transom is indeed still subject to pretty much the same total stress. I'm not sure if the hydraulic ram will be happy to take the force in its housing near the seals instead of the normal way, but it could actually work. The argument gets much more complicated than this, but I won't be trading off my transom saver (with rubber bumpers and spring inside) anytime soon.
 

jtexas

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Re: transom saver

When I had my unfortunate vehicle/boat separation incident, the trailer tongue experienced a sudden impact with the ground, and the boat shifted forward about 6 or 8 inches. The transom saver prevented the lower unit from getting any closer to the trailer, forcing the motor to tilt up. Fortunately my tilt/trim unit's emergency release valve functioned as it's designed to do in the event of an underwater impact, and no damage was done. But, the potential was there for something to get broken.<br /><br />My old trailer came with a very heavy duty iron transom saver, which I just replaced with the most heavy duty one I could find ($36 at BPS). But all the new ones look like they're much lighter, maybe aluminum. Look like they would bend or break under extreme pressure.<br /><br />I'm not sure which is better. Any ideas or opinions?
 

quantumleap

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Re: transom saver

This topic has been discussed time and time again. And once again I state, my Merc manual suggests using a transom saver if the motor cannot be towed in the vertical position. I always follow the recommedations of the owners manual. It's hard to argue with the entire engineering and design team of the largest outboard manufacturer in the world.(but someone always does! ;) )
 

lakelover

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Re: transom saver

I use one with my 20 hp Merc. Not enough road clearance down, but don't want to put all that stress on the manual tilt mechanism with it up. Also, the manual says not to trailer with it up supported by the tilt mechanism.<br /><br />I bought mine from iboats, it's made of aluminum. Also the label states to use it only in conjunction with power tilt. It may be kind of flimsy for a large motor, but I think it's the best way to go for my situation. I did have to cut it in about half to reduce the length for a good fit and height, it was way too long for such a small motor.
 

BoatBuoy

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Re: transom saver

Years ago, when beer cans were real beer cans, we'd raise the motor and shove a beer can between it and transom. Worked well for many years. It's a shame you can't buy a good beer can anymore.
 
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