10 hp with a hiccup

taz33911

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you guys have helped alot on helping me get this engine running.I have 1962 10hp Evinrude got a new throttle gear today it starts fine shifts fine but, it has a hiccup every now and then and pops out of gear.any ideas? only in foward gear
 

sloopy

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

your hiccuop problem has nothing to do with the carbarator!!!!!! it is the gears in the lower unit,the spring that keeps the top geer at presure so it stays in ontact with the forward gear is worn out... !! if you replace it you propblem should go away.
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Are you trying to say the spark plugs Sloopy?Is it possible the plug wires are problem?Would a mototcycle dealership have the same type of plug wire they sell jetski's and such?plugs look new wires look like they are original 1962
 

Yepblaze

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Ignore stupie he's an idiot and why he's still here is unknown.<br /><br />The "sneeze" as it might be refered to, is a lean condition. Should be easily corrected if you turn the low speed mixture adjustment to the left (richer) a quarter turn or so. <br /><br />The poping in and out of gear is usually some parts called the clutch dog(s) in the lower gear unit behind the propeller.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Taz.... The hiccup problem, if it seems like that is coming out the carburetor throat, usually refered to as spitting back (sounds like a mild backfire), that would be due to a improperly adjusted slow speed jet. Instructions to adjust follows below.<br /><br />The jumping out of gear would be due to an improperly adjusted shift (leaning towards more reverse than forward), or worn shift lobes on the shifter dog and forward gear.<br /><br />(Carburetor Adjustment - Single S/S Adjustable Needle Valve)<br /><br />Initial setting is: Slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.<br /><br />Start engine and set the rpms to where it just stays running. In segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the S/S needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running. Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting. <br /><br />When you have finished the above adjustment, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.
 

sloopy

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

your hiccuop problem has nothing to do with the carbarator!!!!!! it is the gears in the lower unit,the spring that keeps the top geer at presure so it stays in ontact with the forward gear is worn out... !! if you replace it you propblem should go away.
 
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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

I have to go along with SLOOPY and he isnt stupid. I have a 50hp force and just did the lower end over seems i didnt hook the linkage up right and i have no reverse but that dosent bother me for now. Antway getting to your problem whwn i put it in forward gear and it is not fully engaged it will hecup but if i move the shift a little more forward it goese away
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Iwas planning on going into the lower unit anyway,I have a leak anyway getting water in the oil. raining tonight try this weekend let you know what happens. Thanks
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

I beleive sloopy is close if I remember right when I put the lower unit back together last time I put the little brass washer in the prop end between the bearing and gear it should have been in the other end . Which would have gave me a little more pressure on the foward gear.I could be wrong but I will try changing it around this weekend .I'll let you know what happens. If I am wrong about the placment of the washer let me know.Thanks
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

If anyone has a picture of a breakdown on this lower unit that might help. Yah I know get a manual but my wife is about to shoot me for spending all this time messing with this engine, just trying to get it finishedso I can get on with the honey do list lol thanks guys
 

slow_boat

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

To my knowledge, there is no spring in the lower unit to hold it in gear on this engine. I believe the problem is a worn shift dog. The shift dog CAN be worn out if the thrust washer that fits into a recess on the cut side of the forward or reverse gears is re-assembled on the wrong end of the gear, thus allowing only a small surface of the clutch dog to engage the driven portion of the gear.
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

If anyone has a picture of the breakdown on this lower unit it would help alot would like to finish this engine this weekend if possible. Thanks
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Could anybody tell me where the brass washer goes at the prop end between the bearing and gear or the other end or where . it has from the prop end a bearing ,gear, clutchdog ,gear,and another bearing. where does the washer go?between which two?
 

Bear

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

This is a picture from the 3HP restoration<br />"SHIFTING MODELS TYPICAL GEARCASE AND PUMP"<br /><br /> http://www.maxrules.com/62threehp/25unit.JPG <br /><br />As you see at the end "...25unit.jpg" might be from a 1962 25HP and maybe the same or similar to your 10HP. I know it is a loooongshot, but no budget for a manual and no other reply.<br /><br />If it isn't the picture you wanted, try your library.
 

slow_boat

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

Sounds like a shop manual is order. FWIW, the thrust washer fits into a recess in the gear. Upon first glance, these washers can appear to be part of the gear itself when held into their recess by oil & surface tension. Your problem might also be caused by an improper shift linkage adjustment or by having manually straightened out a shift rod that had a factory specified bend in it.
 

taz33911

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Re: 10 hp with a hiccup

I have got it back together now guys every thing seems to working fine now thanks for all the help guys.found my leak also the gasket under the impeller was leaking water in the lower unit and oil in exhaust.
 
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