help starting a 1970 evinrude

[tiritilli]

I have a 1970 Evinrude Triumph 60HP Model 60073. I tried to start it for the first time today, with no luck. Through testing I determined that the starter solenoid was bad so I replaced it. Through further testing I believe the switch that controls the (for lack of knowledge) the transmission is bad. I was able to jumper across the solenoid and get the starter to engage but the prop was turning when I did this thus leading me to believe that this switch is bad. Calling the local parts dealer and telling him of the ordeal he advised me there was nothing he could do it was to old and that I would have to figure something out on my own. I am asking for any and all advise on this matter from this forum.

 

[12Footer]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Wow, real helpfull shop you have there...NOT!<br />Well, I'm not much on those electric shift lower units, and from what I've learned here on iboats,they are no picnic. Do a search here for "electric shifting" , "Evinrude lower units", and such. Also, you're pretty much shooting in the dark without the shop manual. click here fo more details. <br /><br />A manual will save gobs of time, agrivation and money.<br /><br />Does it havve spark?<br />What happens when you put fuel/oil mix in a windex bottle, and spray it directly into the carbs and try to start it? Does it sputter, or actualy run briefly, or still dead?

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

I am going to order a manual to night thanks for the link. The only thing I have checked so far is that the starter is engaging. I have not introduced fuel to the mix yet. I was taking it 1 problem (adventure) at a time. Where do you go to search by topics?

 

[Walker]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Your lower unit may or may not be bad. Its supposed to be in gear with no power to it. The propisgoing to turn when you are cranking the starter. You need to get the motor fired up and see if it will go into neutral and reverse then.

 

[OBJ]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Hi Mikebass...the little switch you mentioned, where was it located? Up under the flywheel or near the throttle arm on the starbaoard (right) side of the engine?

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Ok I will try this in the am weather permitting. Any other things I can try or check while it is in the drive way?

 

[alcan]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Hi Mike<br /> 12Footer gives good advice. You need a manual. Your motor should start in forward gear. This is a feature were if you have a problem (Break down) The lower unit will defalt to forward gear. This will allow you to get in for repairs instead of leaving you stranded. There are how ever provisions to hold this system in neutral while dockside. Do your home work and if you have any more questions just ask.

 

[12Footer]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Click the "SEARCH" in red on the top of this page, and then fill out one or more of the "search for" windows with a word or phrase that would bring up any post with that word or phrase in it.If you are too general, you'll get way too many returns to read.<br /><br />Not enpough, and it'll come back with no results.<br />It's a very helpfull tool,and I use it myself quite a bit.

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

OBJ , the switch is with the throttle arm it sits just behind it , it has 3 push down bottons forward neutral reverse

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

After reviewing some old post it appears that there is a solenoid in the lower unit that controls the shifting. Is there an easy way to check that solenoid?

 

[alcan]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Hi mike<br /> There are two wires located near the exhaust cover plate on the port side of the engine block. One blue the other green. there is a knife connection there as well. Disconnect these wires. Apply 12 volts to one wire you should get neutral, apply to both you should get reverse. No power = forward. Have you tested your switch to conferm that it is bad? There are a number of tests that need to be made here.

 

[OBJ]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Mike,<br /><br />As alcan said in his post, the engine is designed to start in gear. Once started and the pump in the lower unit is operating, it will shift to neutral and the prop will stop turning. To check your shift switch on the control box, locate the two wires (blue and green) in the engine housing that leads to the lower unit. Pull the rubber boots off and disconnect the knife connectors. Turn the key to on. (Just to on) Measure the voltage at the green wire. You should see 12 volts. Shift to reverse and you should see 12 volts on the blue wire. Shift to forward and there should be no voltage on either wires. There are two solenoids in the lower unit. If you measure the ohms through either, I believe you would read somewhere around 5 to 6 ohms. You can do this from the wires that you disconnected that lead to the lower unit. One lead of the ohm meter to the wire and the other to ground. (alcan, sure hope I got the above right. going from memory here)

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

I see the 2 wires that you are talking about will I be able to hear the solenoid engage when I apply 12v to it? I have tried jumpering across all the pins with no effect

 

[OBJ]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Looks like I did. LOL!!

 

[OBJ]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

Mike...it's doubtful you will here the shift solenoids pick up. If you are getting voltage as outlined above and the solenoids ohms check good, then they should be picking up.

 

[tiritilli]

Re: help starting a 1970 evinrude

thanks to all that have replyed this is a project for me and my son. I hope that it will keep us close we are looking foward to working on this togeather he after school and me after work. I am sure we will find many more adventure with this old boat we both grow old again thank all of you for your help.<br /><br />Mike and Frank