JOHNSON 115 NO START

groupertoo

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I have a 79 johnson 115. I was motoring along,it just shut off like turning key off. then would not start, turned over fine, later it started just like normal. I got it home, now wont start, I checked...it has no fire at plugs. Any help on how to check module or other to figure out which part to replace? I'm a chev tech at local dealership but I know nothing about outboards...like diagnostics.
 

OBJ

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

groupertoo..glad to have ya' aboard iboats.<br /><br />Try this, disconnect the big red harness plug at the engine. Then jumper the solenoid from the battery and see if you have spark. If you do, the problem is in the kill circuit. I believe you have two (I think) power packs. Don't think both would go out at the same time.<br /><br />And do yerself a favor....get a service manual with schematics. Will pay for itself in no time.<br /><br />Keep us posted.
 

groupertoo

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

Thanks for your help. I'm ashamed to say I gave you bad information. Before I go after a manuel tomorrow I thought it would be best if I got the model number off the motor...I knew when I wrote it down something was wrong (T100293R). 1972 100HP!<br /> I went by what I was Told when I bought the boat when I said 115HP.I'M sorry....Anyway I did what you said and still had no spark. It has one coil and One module. 4 cyl , plug wires go under flywheel. Been good motor for 2 years. Again I apologise for wasting your time.
 

walleyehed

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

You're not wasting anybody's time...we're all here to help if we can, so please continue posting when you need help!<br />Welcome aboard.... :)
 

OBJ

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

No problem grouper...like Kenny said, your not wasting anyones time.<br /><br />Your system is a 12 volt system which means the power pact depends on a 12 volt source to supply it with energy. This would be the purple wire going to the pack. Make sure you have 12 volts to the pack. A good 12 volts.<br /><br />If you do, chances are real good the pack has gone out if you've lost spark to all cylinders. You will need to replace it.<br /><br />Recheck that the lead from the ignition coil to the distributor under the flywheel is tight.<br /><br />These packs are not famous for their longevity and can go even on low voltage. So make sure the battery is good and your charging system is in good operation.<br /><br />Again....no problem....just keep posting.
 

ledgefinder

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

The cost of a new powerpack will be a stunner (something like $350). However, it could be low voltage to the system, bad ignition coil, or bad sensor coil.<br /><br />Here's some alternatives, and ideas on testing. There were two systems in the 1969-72 V4s, both were capacitive discharge, one was points-triggered, the other used a sensor coil trigger. The '72 100, 69-70 115, and 71-72 125 should have a sensor trigger under the flywheel (the '71 100 and '69-'72 85hp have points). The sensor system has two wires to the sensor. Rapair (biggest maker of aftermarket ignition parts for outboards, and respected) says you can test the CD box by touching these two wires together. If you have 12 connected to the power lead (not one of the two sensor leads), you should get a spark at the fat secondary lead coming from the coil. The CD box should throw 150 volts (peak) at the coil, if you have a peak reading meter. I don't know how many volts the little sensor coil is supposed to generate.<br /><br />Used CD boxes on eBay typically run ~$75. I'd avoid the people who want to sell them 'as is'. Alternately, the points system will bolt on to your motor (the cranks all have a cam (points) and two holes (sensor)). You'll need the points timer base from a points-style motor, and the points style amp. The points amp from the 3cylinder motors will work fine also. Finally, you can use the points timer base & just hook it up straight battery-powered like they ran cars for 50 years. <br /><br />Those CD boxes want a steady (spike-free) 12V to live long - you want a large 12V battery and good, clean connections.
 

R.Johnson

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Re: JOHNSON 115 NO START

Go to the post at top of the page on power pack failure.
 
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