1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

[sandspike]

hi people. i have a 65 horse 1973 evinrude that i have to choke every time i start it even when it is still hot. but if i run it for awhile and shut it off ,and make a drift, it is hard to start and when it does start, as i go to put it in gear, it will die out and i have to choke it again to start it . but once i get it in gear it is ok until i shut it down again. could it be the timeing or be out of sync.any hints or info would help. ps. i do have a repair book but it is vage with not many pic. thanks a lot.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

does anyone know what the problem is. any help at all would help. other wise iam going to take a bat to this motor . it wont help it any, but it will make me feel better.

 

[Mila]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

I'm going to contimue to read your post to see what everone else thinks because I have the same problem with my 60hp evinrude.

 

[OBJ]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

LOL!!! Spike, if I had a nickel for everytime I wanted to beat an engine with a bat....I'd be well ahead.<br /><br />Sounds like a fuel flow problem. Check some stuff here. First, check the primer bulb. Make sure it pumps up snug. If it don't, may have a bad valve in it and needs replaced. Sometimes these things will pump up, but when you stop, the valve closest to the tank will let the gas in the line return to the tank.<br /><br />If that's ok, check the fuel lines. Make sure they are all nice and flexible....not hard. Hard lines lose their grip.<br /><br />Make sure the little mesh striner at the fuel pump intake is clean and the gasket is good.<br /><br />Do you know the last time the carbs were overhauled? If the bowl gaskets are black and not a reddish brown, would be a good idea to do this. Soak the carbs out and blow out the passages with carb cleaner and follow up with air. Remove the jets and make sure they ain't got any pluggage.<br /><br />Well...let's start here. Let us know if any of the above has been done or has been checked already.<br /><br />Don't use the bat yet!! The guys here on the forum cry when they see outboard abuse....:-(

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

Hi<br /><br />I don't know your motor but from the conditions I would suspect fuel supply problems. <br /><br />Start with a portable tank with a diffent line and fresh fuel & oil. Check and clean the screen in your fuel pump. Make sure all fuel lines are in good condition and tight. Drain the float bowls on the carbs.<br /><br />Using the primer bulb on the fuel line with the engine off, put some pressure on the bulb and watch your fuel lines and carbs for any leaks.<br /><br />If none of these helps, then you probably need to consider a carb rebuild.<br /><br />Hope this helps.

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

My apologies to the Admiral, too quick for me!

 

[randycc58]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

before swinging for the fence, take a breath and go back through the basics. verify that the points are clean and properly gapped. good plugs and properly gapped. Then I'd try a rebuild kit for the carb. clean the carb and blow out. also sounds if a little overheating could be taking place. this is a simple guess at some of the problem areas.

 

[OBJ]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

Good advice on the overheating Randy. Don't hurt to cover all bases. This paritcular engine has a timer base and power pack. Dosen't have points. But keep the suggestions coming. None of us are right 100% of the time.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

thanks for all of the sugestions.i have don most of those things.but i dont think the carbs have ever been fooled with. i think the guy i bought it from said it had been sitting for a while .but i used it last year and just got tired of it not starting right when i needed it to ,like right befor i get pushed up on a sandbar"STUPIT OUTBOARD" .I think i will start with carb kit. how hard is it to do? any one done this befor. i have three to do.

 

[Bass Runner]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

I had the same problem with my 74 70hp Johny and pulled my hair out for about a month and spent quite a bit of money trying to solve it, (all it was, are you sitting down? The idle was set to low, mine would start on warm up but when you pushed it down to put it in gear if you wasn't real quick it would cough and die before you could get it in gear. Might not be your problem but just a thought.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

thats what mine does. it will start when i put the warm up leaver up and choke it and put it in gear kinda fast,then back off it is ok.but if i just put it in gear slow with out giveing it some gas it will die. sometimes i can save it by giveing it more gas,but most times when it starts to die theirs nothing i can do. but like i said,once ive got it started and in gear,its fine i can put it in nutral and it will idel very nice at low rpm,jut cant turn it off

 

[DJ]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

Spike,<br /><br />You have three carburetors. Don't let that scare you off though. They are actually quite simple. Just take your time, clean them thoroughly and reassemble with new OMC kits.<br /><br />I'll bet you'll be good to go after that.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

i was looking at the repair book and as far as the rebulid goes i think i can do it .but getting everything hooked back up again the right way, looks tough. i mean the tuneing part

 

[DJ]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

If you have the manual, you can do it.<br /><br />If you have a digital camera or a camcorder, just take lots of pictures or a short movie showing how everything goes back together.<br /><br />I've done that many times on projects that I've never attempted before. Sure is nice to have a picture to look at.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

thanks, ill let you know how it turns out.

 

[Freezebear]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

I had same problem with my 92 Johnson 60HP. Turned out it was a combination of things and like you I figured that since the last owner had the carbs rebuilt last year by someone I know Personally that all would be Ok with the adjustments. Wrong! I think vibration over time works everything out of place. My base timing was 4ATDC, supposed to be 0-2ATDC. My carbs throttle plates looked like they were opening and closing at the same time, but after putting a toothpick in the roll-pin as an amplifier, I discovered they were off more than I thought. All I did was follow the manual and synced the carbs, set the timing, removed and cleaned the low speed needles and reset them and that fixed mine. It has run like a champ for the last 3 months now. I can put it in the water and set throttle at fast idle and push choke once and start it and stay running until I get back from parking the truck. Feels good to come back and your motor is still running just waiting for you. Then I proudly look around at the people watching me saying, Yeah I know what I'm doing!<br />Except that one time I forgot to connect the fuel line to the motor! Doh!<br />Good Luck

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

I took the motor to the shop and the guy there took off the cover and said the stator was going bad. he showed me where it looked like it had melted. he also did a few other test and said the stator was the only thing he could find wrong with it. he said the stator was getting hot and it would expand and make it hard to start. how does that sound to you guys.I thought when the stator goes <br />, it just goes.

 

[sandspike]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

anyone?anyone?

 

[Hooty]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

I guess anything's possible but I can't see where choking would fix a bad stator. If tha guy replaces the stator and it still does the same thing, hold his feet to the fire and make him fix 'til you're satisfied.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty

 

[papasage]

Re: 1973 65/hp/evinrude have to choke everytime

check for a exzoust leak under the hood . the wires that goes to the foot shift cylidnoids dont have a seal around it will let exzoust come up into the hood and cause it to die at idle . if that is the probablem it will run good with the hood off . with hood on it cant git fresh air .