Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

Stangfire

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I have a QD-21 1960 Johnson seahorse 10hp.<br /><br />Can someone hook me up with a link to a parts diagram?<br /><br />I'm getting bottom end oil leaking out the little vent hole above the prop.<br /><br />Thanks.
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

Here ya go. <br /><br />Get yourself a repair manual. It seriously is the best money spent. If you don't want to buy one, check out your local library.<br /><br />If you see oil running out of the weep hole, that's perfectly normal - it's just unburnt oil coming from the exhaust. Check your lower unit oil for signs of water intrusion just to be safe. <br />The weep holes are put into the lower unit to drain off water out of the exhaust cavity when you pull the engine out.
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

It's gear oil leaking out the weap hole.<br /><br />My bottom end oil is all milky.<br /><br />I'm assuming it's one of the seals on the top around the water pump that is shot.<br /><br />When I pulled the bottom end off, the entire area around the water pump and stuff was covered in gear oil.
 

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Aha - sounds like you've got it covered then. If it turns out to be due to wear on the driveshaft, find a machine shop to install a speedi-sleeve. <br />Part 22, the shift shaft seal bushing, is a pain in the neck to get out sometimes. Special sized mandrel Special tool #304515 is used to do it. You might want to get the local dealer to knock it out for you.<br />Good luck!
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

Is the shift shaft bushing you speak of usually what goes?<br /><br />Thanks.
 

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Strangfire, on a motor of this vintage anything is apt to be worn. The best advice is to obtain a manual and replace all the seal including the shift shaft. This is not that tough a job with the proper knowlage and tools. The most expencive part will be the book. You will need it for future repairs and tune-up any way. If you don't feel like sending the few bucks for the book mayb you can find a copy at your public library. The QD series motors were good motors, taken care of properly they will be depenable for years to come.
 

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Oh, I got the tool wrong! It should be 304514.<br /><br />No, but when you've got the lower unit apart it's a good idea to replace all the seals. The bushing just holds the shift-shaft seal (large special sized o-ring) in place.<br />If you can get at it, there's other tools you can use to remove it. Have a look at this shift rod bushing discussion.
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

paul, this website you gave... do they have others like it or just for the 1958 10hp?
 

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Just that I'm afraid. You caught the antiques link already right?<br />My sides still hurt from the picture of the tree in your backyard. It's just how I imagined it. That Verwhatsit looks like it's nearly ripe. :D
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

I took the waterpump and housing apart. Removed the drive shaft as well. No obvious signs of leaking.<br /><br />Now I'm looking at the shift shaft and that bushing. Seems like there's an o-ring under that bushing.<br /><br />How do I get the shift shaft out? <br /><br />Do I have to split the bottom end?<br /><br />I am worried about all the gears in there.<br /><br />All seals and o-rings so far look perfectly fine. This motor is in excellent shape. The impeller looks brand new.<br /><br />I should have pumped some air into the bottom end before I took it apart to find out where the leak is. Again I had gear oil all inside the top of the lower unit and it was leaking out the weap hole. I believe that there is only two places it could be coming from. The drive shaft/waterpump or the shift shaft.<br /><br />I read that I can tap the shift shaft bushing and thread a bolt into it to remove it. Looks like it comes out from the top.
 

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Ok, first are you sure you're looking at gear oil all over the top of the lower unit, and not just unburnt oil from the exhaust? If so, clean up the inside as best you can and look carefully for any sort of crack in the lower unit casing itself. If you don't see anything suspicious, re-install the driveshaft and find a way to pressurize the lower unit before you pull it apart. If it is unburnt oil, 9 times out of 10 the leak is at the gearcase fill and drain screw gaskets, so just replace them and see if the leak goes away.<br />Disassembling and reassembling these split lower units is really easy compared to modern gear cases. You'll see if you have yours apart how simple they really are. The only problem people seem to run into is removing the gearcase cap screws themselves. If they weren't sealed with sealant, you'll need an impact screwdriver and possibly some heat to get them out.<br />When you pressuize the lower unit, go easy on it. I remeber reading somewhere not to go beyond about 5 psi with these single-seal gearcases. A bicycle pump with a carved tire valve stem or a syringe and tubing work well, and a kiddie pool or a bathtub make good test tanks for finding bubbles. If you use a bathtub, be certain to clean the gear oil ring around it after you drain the water to cover your tracks!<br />Once you know exactly where the leak is then fix it. If it is the shift shaft seal, you'll need to disassemble the gearcase to get the shift rod out of your way. It comes out on that side only.<br /><br />Tell us what you find!<br /><br />PS - for a impeller to look brand new, it's vanes should stick out straight like a star. If they are curved at all, the impeller has taken a set and must be replaced.
 

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Re: Looking for parts diagram for Johnson 10hp 1960

I'm going to put the waterpump back in and I'll do the pressure test first to find out where the leak is.<br /><br />When I removed the lower unit the top of it is all filled with milky oil.<br /><br />When running in the lake you can see the oil coming out the weep/exhaust hole above the prop. (white oil comes to the surface)<br /><br />When draining the gear oil in the bottom end it's all milky.<br /><br />I'm postive it's gear oil getting in there and not unburn't oil from the exhaust.
 
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