oil tank vs premix

Jcrain

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Hi Guys,<br /> I just aquired a 1990 20 ft poontoon boat with a 40 horse johnson It has an oil tank under one of the seats and a tube that runs to the engine. The guy I got it from said to just add straight gas to the gas tank and make sure there is oil in the oil tank. My question is.... can I just run premix in the gas tank and forget about the oil tank or is there some modding/disconnecting to do?
 

ob

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Re: oil tank vs premix

The vro and associated alarm circuits would need to be disabled before premixing or you would be overoiling the engine.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: oil tank vs premix

(VRO Changeover Judgement Call) <br />(J. Reeves)<br /> <br /> The VROs first came out in 1984 and have been upgraded quite a few times. In my opinion, back around 1988, they had perfected them but I think that they were upgraded even more since then. As long as the warning system is operating as it should, I feel quite at ease with them.<br /><br />Some boaters have voiced their thoughts such as "What if that overpriced plastic horn should fail while I'm under way for some reason, and the VRO decides to fail five minutes later?" Obviously that would result in a big problem which really brings their fears into view.<br /><br />The word "ease" is the key word though. If one has the slightest feeling of being ill at ease with that setup, then they should take the route they feel more at ease with. A judgement call each individual would need to make on their own.<br /><br />********************<br />(VRO Pump Conversion To Straight Fuel Pump)<br />(J. Reeves)<br /><br />You can convert the VRO pump into a straight fuel pump, eliminating the oil tank and VRO pump warning system, but retain the overheat warning setup by doing the following:<br /><br />1 - Cut and plug the oil line at the engine so that the oil side of the VRO pump will not draw air into its system. Trace the wires from the back of the VRO to its rubber plug (electrical plug) and disconnect it.<br /><br />2 - Trace the two wires from the oil tank to the engine, disconnect those two wires, then remove them and the oil tank.<br /><br />3 - Mix the 50/1 oil in the proper amount with whatever quanity fuel you have. Disconnect the fuel line at the engine. Pump the fuel primer bulb until fuel exits that hose with the tint of whatever oil you used. Reconnect the fuel hose.<br /><br />That's it. If you want to test the heat warning system to ease your mind, have the key in the on position, then ground out the tan heat sensor wire that you'll find protruding from the cylinder head. The warning horn should sound off.
 

Jcrain

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Re: oil tank vs premix

Thanks, I think premix is the way to go.
 

CharlesW

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Re: oil tank vs premix

Originally posted by Jcrain:<br /> Thanks, I think premix is the way to go.
For lots of people, it is.<br />I happen to be one of those that is very happy with my VRO setup on my 1986 Evinrude 40. The original fuel/VRO pump was replaced this season, but it actually had to be replaced because the fuel side failed. :) <br />I spent the $265 to replace it with a new VRO/fuel pump to be able to not have to run pre-mix. Nothing in the world wrong with pre-mix that is mixed properly. My problem is multple users that I would never be comfortable that they mixed the gas and oil properly. With the VRO, I don't have that worry.<br />If you are not getting any alarms, your VRO could very well be functioning properly. If you want to check it out, run 50:1 premix for a while and mark the oil tank to be sure the oil level goes down. When I purchased my boat used, I did that for about 20 gallons of fuel to be sure the VRO was working. I did the same thing for about 6 to 10 gallons after I changed the VRO/fuel pump to make sure the new pump was working. When you are comfortable with the VRO system, just start using straight gas and be sure you keep oil in the oil tank. It does have an alarm if the oil level in the tank gets low.
 

Jcrain

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Re: oil tank vs premix

Can you get a fuel pump with out the oil pump and what does it cost?
 

zdmaster2k

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Re: oil tank vs premix

Why would you prefer premix to oil resevoir? I spend hours mixing fuel at my school!
 

McGR

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Re: oil tank vs premix

Yes, you can get a standard fuel pump. They usually run around $50. For me, I prefer the simplicity and reliability of the standard fuel pumps running pre-mix. That's why I removed the VRO from my 40hp Evinrude. I have no problems with having to premix my fuel. It results in a fail safe lubrication system (unless you forget the oil). Many folks like the VRO and the advantages it offers. That's OK too... to each his own.
 

OBJ

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Re: oil tank vs premix

The VRO pumps today are very reliable. I run VRO on my 86' 90hp Rude. All that needs to be done is make sure the associated alarms work. Those are the No Oil, No or Restricted Gas Flow and Low Oil in Reservoir. The early ones as outlined by Joe Reeves, weren't the best. But in my opinion, the pumps offered today are very dependable.
 
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