35 johnson 1976

ross patti

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Re: 35 johnson 1976

Hey fireman,let me spray some WD40 on tour rusty Aussie...I am a NSW lad.I support the NSW blues in state of origin footy,even though I think that Wally Lewis is the greatest player of our time.I don't know what a butcher is,but my wife just found a new meaning of it.I guess absence makes the memory grow foggy.I did chuckle at the thought of all the American fellows wondering what the hell I was talking about !.....Back to business,I got a carby kit today and checked availability of ign.coils..They are about $80 Aust.each{maybe $105 U.S}.Over this Easter weekend,I will change coils,fuel tank and do my best to put the kit thru the carby.If it gets the better of me,I might end up putting my fist thru the carby !!..To fireman 57,BoatBuoy and rwise thanx always for your help.Have a happy Easter,and if at all possible,keep an extra eye out for a "carby in 6429 pieces,please help !!!" posting from me.
 

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Re: 35 johnson 1976

rosco you would be better off staying with the original thread. That way everyone can read all that has been done so far and eliminate guesswork. Don't start a new thread. Check the price on iboats.
 

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Hey fireman,You are right about staying on one thread.I got carried away.Today,I bought the new tank,bulb and hose...even got some stainless worm drive hose clamps.I also got a fuel pump kit. The price of the ignition coils on iboats is US$30.65 when converted to AU$ it may get to $39 each.Then how much for shipping? If I could land them both for US$80\90 then it may be worth the rooting around.One problem with my situation is that to test the motor after completing each thread takes a full boating day.To fairly say that a certain procedure fixed the problem,I'd have to run the boat in the same way as before,which means being out most of the day.The kids winter sports are starting now.In the spirit of this,I agreed to coach my son's soccer team.My weekend time is becoming limited.It is my intention to do the tank,carby and fuel pump.They are all inexpensive and genuine prospects for remedy.I will then treat me to a day of trouble-free , smooth and powerful boating fun.Plan B is to report to you guys that the problem actually lies outside these components.I am getting some experienced help with the carby,so I feel better about it's success.I don't want to seem arrogant,but I'm happy to spend a few bucks on gasket kits where even if they didn't fix my problem,it's a good case of preventative maintenance. Thanx always for your help
 

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If you put the coils in your cart you should get a screen to calculate shipping. I agree with you to change the tank and gaskets first. Will keep watching for this thread. If somehow I miss it my email is stephens57@peoplepc.com.<br />Good luck with the boat and the soccer team. I know what you mean about time being at a premium. We farm, custom butcher, am an independent insurance agent, coach my daughter's high school bowling team and my youngest son's baseball team. Wouldn't trade any of it.
 

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Hey fireman,Thanx for the e-address.I enjoy chatting with my new American friends,so keep a lookout for my continuing ramblings.It's all good fun. Today I changed the intestines of the fuel pump.You mentioned a wavy diaphragm as being no good,and thats exactly what I had.I can say that the motor revs harder at the top end;but I only tested it with the muffs so far.Also put in the new tank.Interestingly,I had to open the vent on the tank cap,or the motor kept stalling.Tomorrow is carby kit day,along with some electric checks.I dont think my battery charging is working;I put the meter on when engine was running and the readout was the same as when switched off.One more thing on the checklist.I'd love to chat with you "real time",but don't know the time difference.I think you guys are 17 or so hrs behind.It's 7.30pm on friday as I tap,so if you could note what time shows on the posting,we might do some figurin' out.Lastly,i-boats only auto-calculates shipping costs in the states only.I have to send them an e-mail for a quote.
 

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Re: 35 johnson 1976

Rosco don't rev that engine more than 1400 - 1500 rpms in nuetral or you can blow it. Especially on muffs or a tank. I think that you might have found your problem. You have to vent the tank or your primer bulb will be sucked flat and you will get no fuel. Coils might be good. Never hurts to have one as a spare because they do go bad. Let's see, there's 2 pints in a quart, 1.07 quarts in a litre, 2 cups in a pint, 5280 feet in a mile, it's 4:35am Good Friday here, so it must be about 15 hours diff. We will be setting our clocks up an hour next weekend which then would then make it only 14. Don't know if that is right but it's the best I can figure. Sounds like that donk is going to purr now.
 

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Hey fireman,thanx for the tip on revs in neutral.I must confess to revving her pretty hard,thank God I didn't kill her. As for our time diff,we're going back an hour tonight,so we are down to 13.What are you doing up at 4.35am? On to the motor...My factory tank did'nt have a vent at all,I'm sure I read in some old postings that this motor did not need venting.Remember the motor would run like a treat for the first 20mins,then muck up after a 2hr rest.It used to idle as long as I wanted,and operated for 12mnths with no vent.Now it wants a vent!! We did the carby today.It was easier than I thought.Had trouble with 1 bolt,rest went smoothly.The inside of body & float chamber was very clean;the float was high,we reset it no probs.When we ran the motor afterwards,it started 2nd crank,ran nice & smooth ,and when I revved it [for the last time ever]in neutral,it gave a sweeter growl than normal.Didn't get to do any electrics test,time got away.The big test will be on the water ASAP.You will be the second person in the whole wide world to share in my joy or pain.I hope the former. Happy Easter
 

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Couldn't sleep and couldn't get into the mappa tassie to have a naughty. Should be joy. Just the difference in sound is a good thing. Brother's 78 35 likes a vented tank. The thing about revving in neutral is the limiter sometimes will not work and it will go into what they call thermal runaway. There is no way to shut it off as it is going too fast for event the kill switch to work. The whole bloody works throws itself apart and it is cactus after that. Easter is my favorite. Hope yours is good too. I'll be at least the third to know as you should have one of your mates with you. Need someone to toss you ambers.
 

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Hey fireman, This tank venting business has got me buggered.My old OMC tank that started this whole thread in the first place,was Not vented.The cap had no vent.The only difference with the new setup is one hose connector to male on tank .Those must be naturally vented somehow.All this is good,but how then did we get conned by this "air in fuel tank" stuff? .But the old tank still must have allowed air in to function...I'm lost.But then again,that'smaybe why I'm a cadet.... Thanx again
 

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Don't worry about vented or non vented. As long as your primer bulb is not getting sucked flat. If is does get sucked flat then just open the cap a little. Let's get her going then worry about the little stuff. Have you got it on the water yet? If you have a new tank and hose that should cure any leak you might have had. Let me know.
 

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Hey fireman,been off the air for a couple of days fishing on a mate's boat.We did good and it was nice to get away.Now back to the 35 on the fishin' mission.....It is great to have a dry fuel tank and surrounding area,thanks to the new tank.It's also good to have no fuel oozing around the carby.I am yet to take it out for a test run,but may get a chance tomorrow[sunday].If I don't open the vent,the motor just dies after 30 or so seconds,so the vent she stays open.Will let you know if I get out tomorrow for the test.After taking 2 days off to go fishing,she who must be obeyed could also have some sunday family stuff in mind.Yes dear. Thanx again,talk soon, rosco.
 

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I know what you mean. I just got back from a "lost" weekend. Had to take my daughter to a bowling tournament. I hate losing time on the projects I need to finish but first things first. Got a good feeling about your next voyage. I'll keep looking for your post.
 

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Sorry,fireman...the computer was playing up and my tech is in france for a couple of weeks.I took the boat out last Sunday,and the news is no good.It's still surging in & out.The tank goes great,no leaks.the carby doesn't leak fuel,and I think it uses heaps less juice,but it still effin surges.The coils are next on the list.From there..??. Thankyou so much for hanging in,give me another week or so,then look this up and I hope you will find nothing but good news.Thanx again for your help,talk soon
 

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You're up awfully late. Just use my regular email stephens57@peoplepc.com. It might be quicker as I don't always have time to check these threads. If we can't solve it we will repost on this thread. If we do solve it you will want to post the solution on this thread for others. Good luck.
 
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