30 hp Johnson with increased power

nordy

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Hi,<br /><br />I have a 2000 Johnson 30hp, which had a rather disappointing performance in the beginning. <br />It lacked power, was a lame duck.<br /><br />So I looked for possibilities of tuning or tweaking it's power.<br /><br />The easiest way was tuning the intake first.<br /><br />The carb's orifice has serially sharp edges so the incoming air would be strongly constricted.<br /><br />So I took a file and rounded it generously and widened the channel from the venturi to the orifice in a way that it may resemble the orifice of a trumpet. <br /><br />Further I widened the venturi by 2 mm, be careful not to damage the small brass tube crossing the area.<br /><br />Much more air now could get into the crankcase but with reduced vacuum pressure in the venturi, so less gasoline would be sucked out of the main jet.<br /><br />A wider jet would solve the problem, so I bored it in steps and did trips with my boat controlling the colour of the plugs after each step.<br /><br />After 3 bores I had found the right bore with the proper air/fuel mixture.<br /><br />Series jet is 67d => 1,7 mm, the optimum bore is now 1,8-1,85 mm (1 inch = 25,4 mm).<br /><br />Further I shortened the butterfly's screws and widened the flange bore a bit (1 mm).<br /><br />Finally the whole assembly was polished.<br />That concluded the works on the carburetor.<br /><br />The Johnson seemed a new engine now, it had lost much of its lameness, acceleration of the boat was greatly improved.<br /><br />But ' appetite comes from eating' we say in Germany.<br /><br />So further tweaking needs doing.<br /><br />The bore in the manifold was matched with the wider bore in the carb flange and the inner casting of the two stay bolts was filed off a bit, so the air would get easier to the outer parts of the leaf valves.<br /><br />The 8 holes in the leaf plate were bevelled from the carb side so the air might easier pass through.<br /><br />Afterwards all edges of the crankcase and the bypass ports were deburred.<br />A time stealing job which only brings little improvement.<br /><br />A much more important tuning step was increasing compression by milling off the cylinder head.<br /><br />I carefully took off 0,7 mm leaving a clearance of 0,5 mm, so the hot pistons couldn't hit against the heads.<br /><br />You feel the increased compression when handstarting the engine but you make it.<br /><br />Finally I changed the Champion plugs for NGK Iridium types and enlarged the air inlet behind the 30-frame in the cover by placing washers onto the bolts.<br /><br />That's all.<br /><br />The performance of my Zodiac boat is much better then before.<br /><br />It now easily gets into gliding with 3 adults and 1100 lbs max weight.<br /><br />Top speed has improved too, but acceleration is best.<br /><br />I can use a 10 x 15 prop pitch instead of serial 10 x 13 which brings speed and reduces consumption by dropping revolution.<br /><br />My average consumption is only 6-7 l/h with 35 km/h speed though air/fuel-mixture is rather fat.<br /><br />So enough posting.<br /><br />Greeting Nordy
 

Paul Moir

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Holy moley nordy, is there anything you haven't done with that 30hp? I still have the schematic you made from the powerpack. Did you ever manage to get satisfactory performance from the boysen reeds?<br /><br />I've been fiddling with my little 4hp lately, and found the aftermarket head gasket I had on it was 0.25mm-0.5mm thicker than the original one. It seems to have a little more pep in the test tank now, but I haven't had out yet.
 

G DANE

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Try to "square" the intake ports in cylinders <br />( leave round corners ), and thin up the by-pass covers.
 

itstippy

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Cripes! I'm proud of my mechanical skills when I change the impeller all by myself. I Bookmarked this thread just because it's so darn much fun to read. It'll also be fun to link to next time someone posts to ask if they can "hot up" their outboard by swapping carbs. I'm glad your 30HP has lost its "lameness"!
 

nordy

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Hello,<br /><br />Paul asked:<br />"Did you ever manage to get satisfactory performance from the boysen reeds?"<br /><br />No, they were bad quality, I gave them back to the dealer.<br />I'm sorry that you can't see the foto of it I shot.<br />You hair would stand on end, we say in Germany.<br />What a impertinence to offer such garbage.<br /><br />G Dane:<br />"Try to "square" the intake ports in cylinders <br />( leave round corners ), and thin up the by-pass covers."<br /><br />Which intake ports do you mean, it has none ?<br /><br />I doubt widening the bypass channel will help.<br />The room is quite large there, also the ports are large which are not 3 small ones but one large measuring up the height of the channel.<br />Increasing the area there, would unnecessarily reduce the streaming velocity.<br />A positive effect has polishing the surface especially in the area of rectangular redirection to reduce friction loss.<br />I've done it a bit.<br /><br />What could further be done ?<br /><br />Enlarging the width of the exhaust ports, so combustion pressure will drop more quickly after piston opens these ports which blows on the scavenging process earlier with the result of a better filling.<br /><br />But don't exaggerate otherwise the piston rings might hook into the ports.<br />The engine must be demounted completely for these works.<br /><br />More spark advance ?<br /><br />I already tried a variation of +2/-2°.<br />The effect wasn't overwhelming.<br />Maybe the change was to little, I'm going to try +5/-5° next time. <br /><br />98 or 100 RON gas is a must when doing this.<br />Be careful of detonation and overheating.<br />Pull the stop lanyard with full speed and full throttle to see whether detonation is existent.<br />The engine must stop immediately otherwise self-burning process is going on.<br /><br />Greetings Nordy
 

G DANE

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

I didnt know the newer ones had one intake port, the older had 3 smaller seperate holes.
 

umblecumbuz

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Nordy,<br /><br />That's very impressive! When my brother and I were youngsters, we spent much time grinding reshaping and polishing 2-stroke insides, and eventually hit on what worked and what didn't.<br /><br />You have approached the whole thing much more methodically. Answer a couple of questions for me if you can, please. <br /><br />In percentage terms, what power increase over the standard motor do you think you have achieved?<br /><br />And is this motor now more 'peaky' - that is, does the power come in over a narrower rev range and at higher revs than before?<br /><br />You have inspired me to strip down a Johnny 50 I have, and rework it. Thanks.
 

nordy

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

G Dane,<br /><br />"I didnt know the newer ones had one intake port, the older had 3 smaller seperate holes."<br /><br />Ah, you meant the bypassports, than your proposal makes sense.<br /><br />Nordy
 

nordy

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Re: 30 hp Johnson with increased power

Sillfishing,<br /><br />"In percentage terms, what power increase over the standard motor do you think you have achieved?<br /><br />And is this motor now more 'peaky' - that is, does the power come in over a narrower rev range and at higher revs than before?"<br /><br />The egine's low and mid range have profitted more than the top range.<br />With higher revs this cross-scavenged engine has a poor trapping efficiency, so much of the additional air gets into the cylinder alright, but doesn't participate in the combustion process because it immediately goes straight through the exhaust.<br /><br />Though top speed has increased by 5-7 km/h I subjectively feel more progress at lower revolution especially the gliding transfer is very good.<br />I estimate power has gained around 10hp (30%).<br /><br />Greetings Nordy
 
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