engine wont turn over

[baileys]

hi can someone help here i tried starting my 50hp johnson but had no ignition click so i replaced the solinoid still no click so i replaced the fuse now i have a click but no startermotor could it be dodgey starter motor the engine is about 1981 ps i checked all the wires and they seem to be ok

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: engine wont turn over

take a jumper cable go from pos battery to pos post on starter. if this works, back up to solenoid, jump both large connections. if this works, could be faulty soleniod, connections. unplug large red plug make sure all contacts and clean, both male and female. could be failed ignition switch.

 

[baileys]

Re: engine wont turn over

thanks tashasdaddy have a feeling its the ignition switch as when i connected the soleniod i accidently touched the wires together and the engine turned over how could i be sure it was the ignition switch i dont want to keep buying parts all the time ps the soleniod is new

 

[JB]

Re: engine wont turn over

Hi, Johnny.<br /><br />Starter electrical troubleshooting is covered in the Engine FAQ on "Outboard wont start".<br /><br />Check it out before you start buying and replacing parts. It should save you some time and bux.<br /><br />Good luck

 

[tashasdaddy]

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the big red plug is where all the wiring connects together. the most important connection. if you have a volt/ohm meter or can borrow on check the terminals on the ignition switch, if not jump them. if you have a manual check out the wiring diagram, if not go to the library, some have the manual you can photo copy.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: engine wont turn over

the big red plug is where all the wiring connects together. the most important connection. if you have a volt/ohm meter or can borrow on check the terminals on the ignition switch, if not jump them. if you have a manual check out the wiring diagram, if not email me and i will scan it for you. tashasdaddy@comcast.net

 

[baileys]

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hello tashsdaddy it would help becausemy library dosent have my type of book but my brother n law has my manual but cant find it so if you could send me the diagramme i would be grateful my email adress is jonnbailey@aol.com

 

[baileys]

Re: engine wont turn over

at last i was able to get to the boat i managed to jump the starter and it was but when i took it apart there was no springs under the brushes so we replaced these but when i tested it off the boat on some jump leads all it seem to do was\spin is this right ? or does it need to be connected to the engine for the cog to rise?

 

[mikeyzx2]

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the starter pinion gear is on a "threaded" shaft, I think the term is called a "bendix". is the spring under the pinion there? it doesn't have to be mounted to engine to work.

 

[baileys]

Re: engine wont turn over

ello mikeyzx2 i know its called bendix but had amental block at the time and yes it does have a spring under it i tried it again today and it does seem to move a bit but havent managed to get to the boat today thanks for replying

 

[Solittle]

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Make sure that the battery is fully charged & the cable connections are clean & tight.

 

[baileys]

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still no luck with starting i checked the starter at the boat shop works fine but when its attached to the engine i get nothing just aclick when i turn the key can anyone help

 

[MCM]

Re: engine wont turn over

So, you have a new solenoid, the starter works just not when connected to the motor! That would kind of narrow it down to a faulty ign. switch, wiring harness, or it could even be corrosion in the battery cables.<br /><br />Disconnect the large red plug on the engine harness, also disconnect the fuel connection/source to prevent the motor from starting since with the plug disconnected you wont have the key to turn it off.<br /><br />Now take a 12 or 14 gauge wire and connect it between the the solenoid post from the battery and the smaller post with what should be the white neutral safety switch wire. Does the motor crank now? if yes then the problem is most likely either the ign. switch or the harness, if the solenoid still just clicks, peel back some of the insulation on the battery cables where they connect at the battery. If the wire is turning green replace them.<br /><br />Post back with any results and Good Luck

 

[baileys]

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ello mcm got to the boat today checked allthe wires couldnt find anything then i moved the solonoid and a wire snapped off so i replaced it and guess what the engine started the wiremust have been rotten but when the engine warmed up it cut out any idea what caused this?ps when we started the engine i had to use my car battery because the boat battery wasnt strong enough and the engine still ran with the boat leads off would this make any difference?

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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and the engine still ran with the boat leads off

If you are saying that the engine was running with the battery cable(s), disconnected you probably have fried the rectifier. Or was I reading that wrong?

 

[baileys]

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hello again but wheres the rectifier?

 

[Solittle]

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Kick your brother-in-law in the shins to find your manual.

 

[gatorred]

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dumb but have you jumped the starter with car jumper cable's and see if it work's turn's motor over,no clicking could be ground or miss wired or bad starter like my 35 merk was

 

[baileys]

Re: engine wont turn over

hello everyone be doing a bit of researce my engine should be alright it can apparently run after being started and the battery cables dissconnected i checked all the wiring it seems to be ok and wiilgive brother in law a kick but not in the shins

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

Re: engine wont turn over

It will run, it just won't charge. Check the voltage at the battery with the engine running and without. You should have at least 13.5 to 14.5 volts with the engine running. If there is no difference in voltage, the system isn't charging and the rectifier is probably spent.