Repower Mako 17 from 90 HP to 115 HP merc

makome

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Im looking into repowering my Mako 171 which has a 1990 Merc 90 HP with a new 115 or 125 classic. Does anyone know if the controls, harness, etc are compatible? Also since I'm planning to do the installation myself will Mercury honor the warranty?
 

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Re: Repower Mako 17 from 90 HP to 115 HP merc

Yeah. Lots of new control stuff coming out. But I think those motors still use the same stuff. If you want to use it for skiing, there's a problem with getting a good constant speed at slow skiing speeds. They're fine for slalom skiing, but If you have to go slow, they can be agrivating. Other than that quirk, they're good motors.<br /><br />I'd think you're okay with warranty if you mount it yourself, but have a dealer do the final setup. There are procedures that have to be followed precicely to get a decent idle and take-off. They're real touchy to get right and they rarely idle well out of the box. Make that a condition of the sale.
 
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Re: Repower Mako 17 from 90 HP to 115 HP merc

I had a Mako17 and went from a 70 hp to a 115 hp and that made the boat. You will 100% happy with how that boat handles.
 

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Re: Repower Mako 17 from 90 HP to 115 HP merc

Thanks for your response. WillyBWright you're right on target. I have had problems with my 90 HP Merc trying to keep my son at a constant speed when wakeboarding. Also the 90 was not really enough to pull up a full size skier so I was thinking the 115 would solve that problem. Any suggestions on what would be a better motor? I was considering a Yamaha 115 but then I figured I'd have to spend another $800 to switch controls. Also I like the Evinrude 115 since it's fuel injected but the price is $1,000 more plus the controls. Obviously money is an object. Any opinions?
 
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makome,<br /><br />The issue with the 115 and 125 is the carburetion set up. It is designed to run on only two cylinders up to 1800 rpm. If you operate it in that range it can be very aggrevating.<br /><br />You are going to like the extra hp. That Mako is a heavy boat. As I recall, they are rated for 135. I would go the 125 route.
 

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Yes, and as we learned in earlier investigations, there's NO way to modify it to idle on all four due to harmonic and vibration issues.<br /><br />If you want to go with the Mercury and your use is primarily with "pull toys", you can just prop it down a bit so that it's pulling 2500 rpm in the "sweet spot" for skiiing. That way there the motor is past the 2-4 transition rpm's and running on all four for the guy on the end of the rope.<br /><br />The only downside to this, is to remember to watch your RPM's at WOT (particularly with no skiier) as you may be propped a bit too light. Those inline 4's don't tolerate much over-rev. <br /><br />-W
 

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Re: Repower Mako 17 from 90 HP to 115 HP merc

I think I'll go with the 125 and prop it down. I checked the mercurymarine.com prop sizing site, plugged in numbers and came up with a 23" prop. I used 2300 lb wt (1250 boat,350 engine,200 gas, 500 3 people). Should I prop down to a 21 or 19 prop? I already have the 17 from my current motor (P/N 48-77344-A40L). Will it fit the 125? What do you think about trying it out first?
 

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23 sounds steep to me. I'd try a 21 first. Your 17 would fit.
 

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Thanks for all the help.
 

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Originally posted by WillyBWright:<br />23 sounds steep to me. I'd try a 21 first. Your 17 would fit.
I'm with Willy. When spending that kind of cabbage for an outboard your dealer *needs* to make a firm commitment to let you swap props for a few tests till you get the one you need for your use. Don't let them wiggle on this, be firm. That's a lot of money you're laying out, your proper fun is whats paramount. :) <br /><br />Now here comes the caution. The "normal" way of propping a boat is to use WOT as the guide. You don't get that luxury because since you're propping down, WOT could be too high to be safe - even for a test. I'd also start with a 21 and watch the tach closely. If it's still pulling past 5200, back off that throttle. Then do your ski testing. What your trying to achieve is having your "ski speed" be between 2200 and 2500.<br /><br />I would also bet that 17 is too low a pitch, with "ski-speed" closer to 3000. That's not bad in and of itself, but at the top end you may be at *great* risk of overrev. <br /><br />Once you settle on the correct prop, you could keep the 17 as a spare if aluminum, or if stainless get $150 for it on Ebay and buy a cheap aluminum spare there - pocketing $100 for your efforts.<br /><br />You're just gonna have to play with it a bit at first to get it set up PROPerly. :D <br /> <br />I did something very similar last year when I repowered a 2001 Seaswirl bowrider from a Jonnyrude 115 to a 1987/88 Merc 115. Now in my case, I AM using a 17 pitch SS prop. My ski rpms are about 3000 and my WOT is just short of 6000. I have that luxury because my 115 is the older inline 6 and those will hold together at 6k. Your new inline 4 is known to snap crankshafts at over 5500 as I recall, so you wanna be carefull when you're playing "pick the propeller".<br /><br />Good luck and please let us know what it came out to be!<br /><br />-W
 

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OH! Use 3M 5200 marine sealant in and around the transom bolt holes, yes it takes 3 days to dry. Settle for nothing less, your transom will thank you in a few years.<br /><br />-W
 
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