Tilt and Trim work how?

Aquasport19.6

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Newbie here, I just purchased a new to me boat. its a 1983 19.6 Aquasport. I am wondering how the tilt and trim work on this boat. I am very unfimilar with this subject and once this boat works i am going to master it. Thank you very much for any help on my topic
 

vipzach

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Is it a single up/down switch, or do you have a the one with 3 bottons?
 

QC

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Is your question what does trim and tilt do? Or how do you trim and tilt the drive in this boat? What power package?
 

Solittle

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Aquasport - You really need to get a OEM shop manual for your engine. It will cover the principles of operation as well as testing and repair procedures.
 

Realgun

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Tilt is to tilt the motor up out of the water.<br />Trim is to help you get the most out of the boat.<br />If you lower the motor all the way down in the water and push the trottle all the way forward you will plane quicker. however to gain even more speed you need to raise the motor a bit at a time.<br />Raise the motor till the boat tends to bounce the front up and down. then trim down slighlty this will give you the best angle and efficiency.<br />Hope this helps.
 

trog100

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the only real difference tween the two is the trim switch usually has a movement limitter on it and to be of much use needs a guage to tell u where its set at.. the other one takes the drive all the way up or all the way down..<br /><br />dont run your engine with the drive up too far cos u can damage your U/Js by the way.. correct usage would be to tilt the drive all the way down before starting the engine then once the engine is running use the trim switch to make minor adjustments..<br /><br />trog100
 

Aquasport19.6

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Thanks for all of the replies they did help out a bunch. I guess i need to play around once i get her running good enough to take out. The only time i took her out it seemed like the front end was sticking way to high in the air?
 

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aquasport<br /> can ya tell us what drive your tilting, some drives were tilt only in that year range. even though people still liked to call it trim and tilt.
 

trog100

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just for interest rodbolt.. my 88-ish alpha one drive was trim and tilt.. its now just tilt on both switches.. cos mercuiser are stupid enough to use phillips headed screws as opposed to stainless studs with nuts on to fasten the trim sender and limit switches to the drive i followed my mariner guys advice and chiseled off the old switch units in an attempt to get those silly phillips screws out.. they still all sheared off.. grrr..<br /><br />anyway i decided being as my boat dont have a trim gauge fitted the sender wasnt needed.. then i decided i could equally well trim my boat with a similar guessing one second dab then a look over the back to see where the trim really was without a limitter switch.. so i just bridged the two limitter switch wires together and now both trim and tilt switch do exactly the same thing.. he he<br /><br />the only fix when those screws shear off is to drill and tap some more holes close to the originals and fix the "new" switches in a slightly different rotational position.. all cos the idiots didnt have the brains to use studs screwed into the drive with nuts on..<br /><br />i just decided it was easier to live without em.. he he <br /><br />trog100
 

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Aquasport19.6 - Do yourself a favor and buy a copy of the book "getting started in Power boating" by Bob Armstrong. It will help you a lot.<br /><br /><br />Your bow will rise as the boat "climbs out of the hole" That is, as the boat gets on plane (rides on top of the water rather than through it).<br /><br /><br />Here is what Capt Armstrong calls the trim drill. It takes longer to say it than to actually do it.<br /><br />Trim your motor all the way down (also called "in")<br /><br />Steadily increase your throttle to wide open (also known as WOT for wide open throttle)<br /><br />The Boat will climb out of the hole and go on plane (you'll know when it happens - the bow will drop suddenly and the boat will begin to pick up speed fast).<br /><br />Throttle back a bit to your cruising speed.<br /><br />slowly trim your motor up (you'll notice speed increase for same RPM) until your boat begins to porpoise (rhythmically bounce up and down like a porpoise) then trim back down a tad till it stops. You will then be at optimum trim.<br /><br />Buy the book and you'll be an old salt in no time.<br /><br />PS - trimming your motor up is also called "out"
 

trog100

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(you'll notice speed increase for same RPM) i would say that one slightly differently ralph..<br /><br />(you'll notice a speed and RPM increase for the same throttle opening..)<br /><br />thow to be honest none of what should happen happens to my boat.. i have tried slowly tweaking the drive up/out looking for that optimum trim position.. for my bow to rise slightly and my speed to go up even a little but all that happens is massive prop ventilation sets in long before i reach my trim limit.. nothing much else does.. he he he..<br /><br />might just be my boat that behaves this way but it does..<br /><br />trog
 

rodbolt

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trog<br /> the reson for the trim limit was for saving the drive from operaator stupidity. on your drive something like anything more than 22 inches out from anchor to anchor the engineers at merc decided there was not enough of the bell housing inside the gimbal ring for adequte lateral load safty, on the off chance that someone would attepmt a high speed manuver with the drive trimmed inadverdanty past the trim limit. thats why there were two switches and still are, its so the operator could not say he did not realize he had trimmed to high. the merc unit is a single piston type system so its really not trim and tilt but rather a hydrualic lifting device. some OMC and Volvo units are strictly tilt and can be damaged if tried to be used as trim. I see many mercs with the limit switch bypassed. I cant do it nor reccomend it be done as there are some legal concerns. most,not all, outboards have a true trim and tilt unit. the valving is set so if the unit still has the prop in the water and is off the trim rams it will bypass the releif valve and lower itself back on the pins. this is true for all 3 ram systems and some, not all, single ram systems. some single ram systems on smaller motors will allow the bracket to move back to the trim set pin if a load is applied wile in any tilt position.<br /> but were it mine personally I dont know if I would bypass the trim limit or not. I drill and tap to many of those 10 X 32 screws each year so its no worries to me. but thats was why I asked for a drive type before advising on how to use a system. <br />if ya aint gots da no ledge to use it, odds be ya aint got a clue what ya have. <br />so if I dont know what you have how can I advise ya how to use it ?
 

trog100

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yes mine is an operator "stupidity" protection device.. but in some ways it works agin itself.. especially if u are "stupid" enough to press the wrong set of buttons by mistake.. he he.. and bombing along at 30 knts looking down to see whether or not the buttons u are pressing say trim or tilt on em in very small print aint safe either.. it occurs to me that to be really idiot proof and safe the tilt buttons would need to de-activate when the igniton was switched on on only work when the engine wasnt running.. <br /><br />an idiot proof device designed by idiots.. pretty much like those screws.. he he he..<br /><br />still i learn a bit more about the varying types thanks for the info..<br /><br />trog
 

Pickels

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

When using a stern drive for pulling up a skier, do you put the stern drive down - middle or high to get the skier up out of the water?
 

Realgun

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Ahrmles you push the throttles forward to get the skier up and out. Trimmimg down will help too. :D
 

bruceb58

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Why are you bumping a 2 year old thread?
 

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?

Dang if I don't learn something interesting here every visit. All these years I thought the trim limiter was to keep you from lifting the water intakes too high and overheating your engine. Never clued to the fact it might be a high speed stability issue as well.
 

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Re: Tilt and Trim work how?


But you already put the link to this thread in the other post!
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