Are Bayliners really that bad???

paintermn

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Thank God!!! I have finally found a way to get out of the heat I have had to take about pwc hunting!<br />(see: anyone know of a good pwc site).<br /><br />All I have to do now is post:<br /><br />Is there a problem with Bayliner?
 

Skinnywater

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Right-on Captain Mike!! My kind of attitude!!<br /><br />Your observation makes the Bayliner the best boat ever made.
 

vfr64

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Hello everyone(particularly Bayliner owners past or present),<br /><br />As a future boat owner and yes I've looked at Bayliner, I've heard the bad rap it has received. I've known people who've owned Ford Escorts...and we've all heard the Ford jokes...who, 50% bought another Escort after years of reliable service from the previous one and the other 50% would never even buy a Ford. <br /><br />So, what is really wrong with Bayliner as a first, inexpensive boat purchase...poor workmanship, cheap materials, performance, service and here's the big one, resale value? They look good in and out of the water but I'd like some hard, factual evidence from the boating community. Thanks.
 

trollhole

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die post die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 

waterguy

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Why do people say for this post to die? If you don't want to read about the subject you simply don't have to click on it. Just pass it by. You obviously are reading all these messages. So why get so upset. I for one was very grateful for the Bayliner comments, as I also made the mistake of buying one. After I read all the bad things about them on this thread I decided against buying one. You guys may of saved me a lot of trouble.
 

tjthorson

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Hmmm. I own a 1985 Bayliner 1900 Cuddy. Sharp looking boat. Even has the dreaded 125 Force on the back. In three years, hasn't ever left me stranded, and I haven't done anything to it other then fog it for winter and replace the impeller.<br /><br />I feel my $2900 Bayliner is an awesome starter boat. You learn A LOT about boat care and maintenance owning a Bayliner. And if you break it, you are not out big money. I am ready to move up and will probably sell mine for $2500. Not a bad loss for my three years of light use.<br /><br />My complaints about Bayliners? They use cheap plywood. If it gets wet, its done. I am now anal about sealing any crack, loose screw, or fitting with sealant to be sure the wood stays dry. It set me up to take care of a better boat easier because I know the ins and outs of the boat care.<br /><br />On the Force? Its underpowered. I added trim tabs, made a world of difference. The water intake is down on the bottom of the outdrive, so if the prop is in mud, you suck mud into the engine. Pull the thermostat housing, rev it up, ad the mud flies out and you move on. REAL easy to work on. Makes me pay attention to depth finder, another thing that will come in handy on a new boat.<br /><br />So, for a starter boat on inland lakes and rivers? I HIGHLY would recommend a Bayliner. Kinda like learning to drive in a Chevette. Then you are ready to move up to something better constructed, more powerful, and you will know how to take good care of it.<br /><br />Coming from someone that owns probably the worst era of Bayliner with the worst engine combo, I'd say I would even recommend them.
 

trollhole

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I'm sorry waterguy, but it just amazes me at how many times this post comes back up. And we see the same ole' post saying the same thing. And then before you know it someone has offended someone who owns a bayliner and the fight is on. And then Admin steps in and bans someone. So it's better to leave this subject alone. It has been beat to death. And By the way I own a Bayliner trophy with a force 90 so I'm not a basher. :mad:
 

mellowyellow

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tjthorson, when my daughter gets her driving permit in 18 mo. :eek: , she sure as heck ain't<br />gonna drive a chevette! prefer a big old caprice.<br />if she gets in an accident, she's safer...<br />same principles apply on the water. <br />but if it was the only way I could get around,<br />I'd happily drive one and so would you. <br />buying used boats is a crap shoot sometimes.<br />how was the boat maintained over it's life?<br />a well maintained bayliner could be more reliable<br />than any comparable boat in my $ range if it was <br />PROPERLY taken care of.<br />so let's put a fork in it and say it's done.
 

waterguy

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I agree. I won't say another word about Bayliners. I even went to their website and ordered a catalog. They do have some nice looking boats and it's almost unbelieveble how inexpensive they are. It really does make me wonder how they can sell them so cheaply.
 

RJS

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I have a 2002 Trophy 2103. AWESOME FISHING MACHINE. All my friends love it and so do I. None of my fishing buddies have said: "****, I wish he still had the Scout".
 

JS2

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Bayliners are only inexpensive until you start adding options that come standard on other brands of boats. This is especially true of Bayliner's engine options. They usually have the base engine that is too small for the size of boat and then charge much more $$$ to upgrade to a more powerful engine.
 

Robert Sharp

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I love my 20 foot Bayliner Trophy, it's preformed great, if it wasnt for the ****ned Force outboard, it would be the perfect boat!\<br />Great Ocean going vessel too!
 

sfels

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Sorry, but I have to agree with the last post. I also own a 20ft. Trophy and, except for the lousy motor, it is great. Mine's in the shop right now getting rigged with a Mercury 150EFI since my Force munched a couple of pistons. I just couldn't bring myself to keep throwing money into the Force. As for Bayliners, remember they are Chevys, not Cadillacs. If you treat them kindly, they'll last forever.
 

RJS

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SteveF,<br /><br />You'll love the Mercury EFI, I have the 200 EFI. Great engine.
 

b.gagnon

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The trophy models cannot be compared to a regular bayliner. They are in a whole different class….
 

RJS

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BigE<br />Not too convincing. Bad example.<br />Trophy's are good boats and the dealer I bought mine from provides very good service.
 
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mucuna

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Hi all,
thanks to the mariners that stand up for our old sea girls the Bayliner. She may be an old girl, but we do come home with a smile. :D Can anyone answer me this: you know the various string of drainage pipes that run under the floor in sections from the cabin step to the drain plug? Well those pipes get clogged with whatever sometimes and sections of the hull hold some water not being able to drain through the sections of pipe and finally out. It's difficult to get something into those pipes and clean them out, any ideas on how to make the job easier? And what could be getting in there to clog it sometimes? Just gunk? Leaves? We jack her up at the bow to let gravity take over but it doesn't all come out. email me please.....

Thanks,
mucuna
 
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