Pull start DT-115?

[PCBeach]

How easy should it be to pull start a 115? I have tried to pull my DT-115, but can't get it to turn even with all the plugs out.<br /><br />Here is what I had. 1st trip out last month. about 2 minutes into the trip engine dies like it is out of gas. Turn the key a few times no start, soulds like low battery. Finally get it to start and it dies again while heading in. No start this time. After I get home I replace both batteries, re-work all wiring. Still no start. Starter turns but once the bendix engages it will not turn the motor. Checked voltages to starter and all are good. Took starter in for rework today. They said bech test looks OK, but they will break it down and check it tomorrow. Got home, tried to pull start and can't get the flywheel to move.<br /><br />Any suggestions? One other note I have had exhaust leak from the bottom of the power head for the last couple months. Repair shop said it was a leaking gasket, but would do no damage and to just wait to repair it until sometime when I had to have the head pulled.<br /><br />Unit is a 1994 used in salt water flushed for 10 minutes after every trip.<br /><br />Thanks.

 

[jim dozier]

Re: Pull start DT-115?

You should be able to turn that engine easily with the plugs out. Though not easy I would think you could pull start that engine if it was working right. Once you get your starter up to snuff the first thing you need to do is a compression check. I would be worried about internal damage. Where exactly is the gasket leaking? Did this engine ever overheat? What did the spark plugs look like? Can you move the flywheel at all?

 

[PCBeach]

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exhaust leak is at the bottom front of the powerhead. Engine has never overheated in the 2 years that I have had it. Spark plugs were pretty black. Top three looked "wet". I can't only move the flywheel a couple of degrees. Even when I put a large wrench on the bolt on top of the flywheel, I still could not move it.

 

[jim dozier]

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This does not bode well. Drop the lower unit and then try to move the flywheel again. At least then you'll know whether the problem is in the gearcase or the powerhead. If its in the gearcase If its in the power head Pull the spark plugs and see if anything is visibly amiss in the head. Verify that nothing on the outside like a loose part or bolt is jamming the flywheel. Next step would probably be to pull the heads and look for damage. The good news is I think you are going to get to replace that bad gasket. Good luck.

 

[JB]

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If a scrawny old (bleep) like me can rope start a DT130 (did that a couple of years ago) you should be able to do a DT115, PCBeach.<br /><br />I agree with jimd, you have big trouble.<br /><br />Welcome to iboats, and let us know what you find.

 

[PCBeach]

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Thanks for all the info. I guess getting out this weekend is not going to happen <br /><br />I figured ebing 6'4" I should have been able to pull start and at least have the flywheel move.<br /><br />What is strange to me is the boat started with no problem at the house a couple of times before the trip. I guess it was once she was under load that the problems came up. I was thinking maybe I did not have a major problem since the engine did not go up catastrophically during the trip.

 

[jim dozier]

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No way to know until you check some of the things I mentioned but I am leaning towards a smoked piston, probably the bottom one.

 

[PCBeach]

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I am thinking the power head. Prop spins free when not in gear and locks in when I put it in forward or rev. Tomorrow in the light I will check the lower unit lube for water just to be sure.<br /><br />I pulled the plugs and put oil in all four cylinders. Will let it soak over night and at least see if I can get it to move in the morning.<br /><br />Pulling the head is more than I am can do so wil take it to a shop. Any estimate on what a powerhead rebuild on a 1994 DT115 will be?

 

[PCBeach]

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I agree with jimd, you have big trouble.<br /><br />Welcome to iboats, and let us know what you find. [/QB]

Turned out to be water in the #4. Seal on the bottom of the block was bad. Big trouble is correct, crank shaft bad etc. Repair estimate over 3K. Have decided to replace rather than repair.<br /><br />Any good source for used Suzuki 90 or 115? How about online source for new 90 or 115.<br /><br />And last, if I reengine with something other than a Suzuki will my trim/tilt work? How much will it run for new controls/ guages?<br /><br />Thanks for all the help from the board when I was trying to get it figured out.

 

[jim dozier]

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Good used and new outboards are available on this website. Good luck.

 

[phatmanmike]

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www.brownspoint.com<br />www.ebay.com<br />www.boattrader.com<br />www.iboats.com<br />www.boats.net<br />all good places for new/used motors..... most with warranties, except ofcourse ebay and boattrader

 

[PCBeach]

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Thanks. Had already checked brownspoint with no luck. Local paper today has a DT140 for 2500. Is there a physical size differance between the 115 and 140? I have been told they are basically the same engine. My boat says it is only sate for a 120, but I am well under wight capacities so am thinking about the 140. Opinions?