photographs......film vs digital.

Scott Danforth

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miscellaneous ramblings before the second cup of coffee

looking thru some old photo albums recently from when my grandfather and father were younger. lead me to look for various hotrod builds from the late 80's to early 00's

then it dawned on me, I dont have much for photographs over the last 30-40 years as all the photos were digital after 1994.

Photos of my childhood were kept by dad who lost all the photos in a move to his house in Northern Wisconsin. the photos were in his file cabinet which opened up on the highway while he was clipping along at 70mph and were scattered between Denmark Wisconsin and Wausaukee Wisconsin in the early 90's

photos taken from the mid to late 80's to 1994 were stored in tubs, still have them

most of my 90's and early 00's digital photos were lost when my PC hard drive in 2003 died. thats when I discovered that the zip drive backup tapes were not recoverable. still have them, still try once in a while to access them, however the years were not kind to the tape.

most of my photos from 2003-2013 were cloud stored on webshots and photobucket..... when they went away, so did my photographs. webshots used to be tied to hallmark, then went on its own then went away, and we all know how photobucket broke the internet a while back. spelunked around the web archive to recover what I could, however only could get about 10%

starting in 2012, was doing some ITAR work, so quit using cloud storage for anything.

I have two portable hard drives with the pictures taken from 2013 on, however most were taken with a phone, so searching and archiving is a pain, and there were minimal automotive projects during that time frame. also have to remember to back up the phone every month or so

half the forums I was on 15-20 years ago no longer exist. most of the content has been lost. so much for the internet being forever. its only there as long as the hosting is sponsored.

about 5 years ago, had my phone in my pocket while using the bead blast cabinet at work to clean off the outdrive castings.... and the pen in my pocket kept hitting the screen. phone thought it was a log-in attempt and after 10 attempts, the phone wiped itself. so I had lost about 6 months of photos with the phone.

I sure do miss photo albums and real film.
 

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Yep, that is why all phone photos get sent to Dropbox where they get put in folders labeled by date and occurrence (2025 07 July 25 Galloway NJ Vacation). From Dropbox they are uploaded to the cloud and downloaded to 3 separate hard drives. Everything should be backed up. My wife thinks it is a pain the way I am anal about the photos, but have heard too many horror stories like yours and I am not willing to take the chance with photos of the kids and grandkids.

I am in the process of scanning all the older photos, slides, and filmstrips into their appropriate folders also. That is a JOB!
 

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I’ve got a bunch of cool bike build pictures and some cars as well on regular film and lost a lot due to being digital.
Someday I’ll dig them out.
 

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Either way can still be lost. At least with digital, you don't need to haul around another gadget. It's all on your phone. It could be sent straight to dropbox, or email ot to yourself for backup. You could also still print them out for photo albums later.

So both I guess, depending on how much you value the pictures.
 

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My boss actually said we did a better job of documenting things with film. I thought about it and it makes sense. You have that roll, every shot had to count. Now I have a super computer in my pocket that I can take more photos with than it was ever possible to carry in film... and I don't think I photograph it well. There are a ton of photos of my restoration. But looking back, there are some critical things that if I had to think about it, I would've shot but instead didn't even bother...

That being said, I have multiple backups of everything from when my parents went digital. All the analog stuff is fine and unsurprisingly looks pretty good still... those early digital photos didn't age well.
 

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Either way can still be lost. At least with digital, you don't need to haul around another gadget. It's all on your phone. It could be sent straight to dropbox, or email ot to yourself for backup. You could also still print them out for photo albums later.

So both I guess, depending on how much you value the pictures.
Yes - it's sad that flipping thru old photo albums is largely a thing of the past.
A couple of nice things about digital tho:
1) taking a pic of an item needed when out shopping makes written notes a thing of the past
2) it's so much easier to share pix. When my folks were in their advancing years, emailing pix was tough for non-tech savvy people. I finally just started uploading them to Walgreens andhad them printed at a location around the corner from their house. Then all they had to do is drop in to pick them up. They liked that!
 

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My grandmother had half a storage unit full of pictures and slides. Most pictures she left behind were of people and places long since lost from memory.

Truth being, most pictures will never see the light of day after the collage comes down after your funeral.
 

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As an amateur photographer who really enjoyed film and the prints from it I can say that from an overall resolution perspective it is difficult to beat the high-end digital cameras available now. Even the old "large format" film cameras from my time in the hobby have been surpassed. However...there IS something about film and prints from it that seem...warmer?...maybe? I have hundreds of digital scans from prints of pictures from my childhood but still need to do thousands more to capture them all. My dad traveled throughout Europe in the '50 and '60s and has hundreds of pictures he took that I really need to get scanned and saved. I recently purchased a 6TB external hard drive to store photos from my OTHER hard drives on my home PC...kind of the whole "backup to the backup" things.
 

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Funny enough my local CVS still develops film. I also have a dedicated photo center near by that does it. Its probably been 15 years since I developed a roll of film though.
 

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There are a couple of photo shops nearby that still develop film and make prints...not cheap...but still available. Many different mail-order film processors out there as well.
I have often thought about setting up a darkroom in a spare bedroom of my house to do black-and-white photos...
 

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I used photography as a hobby. I look back at the horrible picture quality of the old 126 cartridge cameras and the old flashcubes (Chances are most people here rarely heard of them) then the advent of 35mm (one of my favorites) and I probably have THOUSANDS of negatives and steamer trunks full of photos. I like digital and have a great deal of pictures there. The biggest differance I see is that the digital formats (even super clear) are harder to search. We are all used to taking "phone photos" but they are difficult to search. In the old days we used to take film photos and write on the envelope what the occasion was i.e. birthday party, wedding, christening etc My old time all time favorite was 35mm or 120mm done on high quality B&W film.
 

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I used photography as a hobby. I look back at the horrible picture quality of the old 126 cartridge cameras and the old flashcubes (Chances are most people here rarely heard of them) then the advent of 35mm (one of my favorites) and I probably have THOUSANDS of negatives and steamer trunks full of photos. I like digital and have a great deal of pictures there. The biggest differance I see is that the digital formats (even super clear) are harder to search. We are all used to taking "phone photos" but they are difficult to search. In the old days we used to take film photos and write on the envelope what the occasion was i.e. birthday party, wedding, christening etc My old time all time favorite was 35mm or 120mm done on high quality B&W film.
I agree that searching through digital photos can be a pain. I often think I should break them down into folders and sub folders but I never do it.
 
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