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dingbat

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I have an outside antenna that gets aerial broadcast. Nbc, abc, cbs, fox..then others, qvc, grit, hsn, court tv, metv, ...some more.
supplemented by sling, paramount+, netflix, prime...all pay.
then some free apps like Pluto, you tube, roku.

have not missed cable.
Same here but I don't do pay services.

Have 300+ channels of free "junk" on the Roku stick that I hardly ever watch
 

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Super duper seeking out right now. Like chill bumps geeki g out.....


The newly released trailer for Star Trek: Starfleet Academy has officially confirmed that the series will premiere in early 2026, aligning with the franchise’s 60th anniversary. Set in the 32nd century, the story follows a historic moment for Starfleet as the first class of cadets is welcomed back to Earth after more than a century. The academy is based in San Francisco and aboard the USS Athena, where new generations will be trained for the future of the Federation. Holly Hunter stars as Chancellor Nahla Ake, a half-Lanthanite leader, while Paul Giamatti portrays the mysterious antagonist, Nus Braka. The show introduces a fresh lineup of cadets from various species, including Caleb Mir, Jay-Den Kraag, Sam (Series Acclimation Mil), Darem Reymi, Genesis Lythe, and Tarima Sadal. Several familiar characters return in guiding roles, such as Jett Reno, The Doctor, Admiral Vance, and Sylvia Tilly, bringing legacy connections into the new storyline. The trailer is packed with nostalgic callbacks, including visuals of the James T. Kirk Pavilion, a Federation “Wall of Legends,” and nods to classic captains like Benjamin Sisko. This mix of new beginnings and old favorites promises a vibrant continuation of the Star Trek legacy.

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Discovery also jumped 1000 years into the future to get around some inconsistencies. I thought it was pretty lumpy though.
 

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Discovery also jumped 1000 years into the future to get around some inconsistencies. I thought it was pretty lumpy though.
I've not gotten into all the offshoot. Too many at one imo. And honestly until the age of the internet in it ubiquitous form, I was always about 5 years behind knowing about a new series. Didnt discover tng until about 97
 

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then you guys need to get up to Ticonderoga, NY.

I don't consider myself a trekkie......I did buy a tribble though. 😂
Absolutely a great thing! I have many friends that make it to Ti every year and love it. It's just across from VT on Lake Champlain!
 

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Super duper seeking out right now. Like chill bumps geeki g out.....


The newly released trailer for Star Trek: Starfleet Academy has officially confirmed that the series will premiere in early 2026, aligning with the franchise’s 60th anniversary. Set in the 32nd century, the story follows a historic moment for Starfleet as the first class of cadets is welcomed back to Earth after more than a century.
I sure hope they decide to return to free broadcast television with this, just like all of the foundation the whole ST universe was built upon. Otherwise, that will be yet another series that scads of die hard fans won't see.
 

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I signed up for CBS + for a free month when Picard hit season 3, probably going to buy all four here soon.

Won't mind if the Orville would come back.
 

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I sure hope they decide to return to free broadcast television with this, just like all of the foundation the whole ST universe was built upon. Otherwise, that will be yet another series that scads of die hard fans won't see.
I waited until Picard was over as well as Orville and signed up for 1 month (no commercials) and watched all of them, wasn't hard
 

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I waited until Picard was over as well as Orville and signed up for 1 month (no commercials) and watched all of them, wasn't hard
The issue is that one still has to pay to watch it. Broadcast television requires a wire and a TV. That's all. No internet. No email address, contact info, and financial data sitting on someone's server ready to be hacked.
 

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The issue is that one still has to pay to watch it. Broadcast television requires a wire and a TV. That's all. No internet. No email address, contact info, and financial data sitting on someone's server ready to be hacked.
okay.... what's your point for anyone outside of the transmission antenna range?

No one is putting a transmission tower to reach rural areas
 

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We complain about our children watching the internet and their phones, while getting brainwashed.....so what is modern day TV doing to we adults?
TV is really bad nowadays, barely anything worth watching. For me, the outdoor channels from Alaska and others is all I watch. Regular TV shows have over half of their airtime used for advertisements, mostly for medications that you can't buy and need a prescription for so why try to sell me that junk ? My wife is disabled so we do have a satellite so she can watch when I doze off from the useless junk on the airwaves. The garbage on TV is just as bad or mabey worse than the junk our children watch on their phones and internet, perhaps we should look more closely at the example we set with our TV.....
 

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okay.... what's your point for anyone outside of the transmission antenna range?

No one is putting a transmission tower to reach rural areas
Taller antenna. People used to know how to erect towers or telephone poles to hang a large antenna to watch The Honeymooners and Leave it to Beaver.
And if that doesn't work, we're talking about a fraction of a percent of people in the US.
Personally, I like to issue advice that will benefit the largest amount of people, and let those few who have to deal with adverse conditions figure out how to deal with their problems on their own. Most people alive today don't even realize they have the choice to receive entertainment in nearly every corner of the US for absolutely free. They've been brainwashed by the cable and satellite TV companies, mobile device companies, and cable TV media companies into believing this fallacy. Some of the "cord cutters" don't even realize this and think that the only alternative is streaming TV over the interwebs.
At the very least, it's a good thing that people aren't anchored down to one place, and can choose to move if it's no longer desirable to them to pay for things that 99.some percent of the people in the country can get for free.
Broadcast stations cover on average within a radius of much more than 100 miles if the person on the receiving end puts up a decent antenna. I have a modest antenna at only 20 feet above ground, pointed at our metro's transmitter sites which is roughly 25 degrees away from the farthest major metro area I can receive. I plopped a path on Google Earth Pro between their station and my home, and came up with 95.06 miles to their transmitter site. I can get them just fine on my setup. The other closest metro has a transmitter which is 48.2 miles off the back side of my antenna. I can watch more than 60 channels absolutely free. Terrain in this area is a piedmont, which has modest rolling hills as well as large areas of flat land. Farther out west on the plains, line-of-sight transmission can go 150 miles or more depending on the height of the receiving antenna. Mountainous areas are the most difficult, but only a small percentage of those areas are impossible to serve with broadcast television. If you can receive FM radio there, chances are good you can receive a TV signal with the proper equipment. In fact, the vast majority of television transmission facilities are erected in rural areas.
And that's my final point; just as our forefathers knew, an outside antenna is the way to get quality in your TV signal. If you're expecting decent performance on a set of rabbit ears and you're 40 miles from the transmitter, well, there's your problem.
 
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We complain about our children watching the internet and their phones, while getting brainwashed.....so what is modern day TV doing to we adults?
Nothing new here. It's been going on since the birth of commercial television. The difference is that the phone stuff is designed to deeply entrench vast hordes of people into staring at that little screen and tuning out reality for most of the day.
TV could have had the same effect, and certainly did on a smaller scale. The difference is that in the heyday of broadcast television, you couldn't carry it in your pocket. Indeed television creates mindless zombies out of a few, but not nearly on the level that mobile devices and their anti-social media apps and brain-melt inducing psychologically molded and targeted games have done.
Television traded your time and possibly some money spent on a necessary product A instead of necessary product B due to smart advertising. These phone devices trade people's souls for every waking hour devoted to achieving that next level of crushed sugar diabetes inducing mental fix or societal de-evolution induced approval from all those peers you don't even know for your latest narcissistic selfie technically terrible looking vertical video tick tack eating binge posts.
TV made closet zombies for a few hours a day. These mobile devices have cameras so that all the already-zombified full-time-fools can shoot video of themselves (again, in the totally disgusting and cringeworthy vertical format) continuing to make fools of themselves.
 

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Taller antenna. People used to know how to erect towers or telephone poles to hang a large antenna to watch The Honeymooners and Leave it to Beaver.
And if that doesn't work, we're talking about a fraction of a percent of people in the US.
Personally, I like to issue advice that will benefit the largest amount of people, and let those few who have to deal with adverse conditions figure out how to deal with their problems on their own. Most people alive today don't even realize they have the choice to receive entertainment in nearly every corner of the US for absolutely free. They've been brainwashed by the cable and satellite TV companies, mobile device companies, and cable TV media companies into believing this fallacy. Some of the "cord cutters" don't even realize this and think that the only alternative is streaming TV over the interwebs.
At the very least, it's a good thing that people aren't anchored down to one place, and can choose to move if it's no longer desirable to them to pay for things that 99.some percent of the people in the country can get for free.
Broadcast stations cover on average within a radius of much more than 100 miles if the person on the receiving end puts up a decent antenna. I have a modest antenna at only 20 feet above ground, pointed at our metro's transmitter sites which is roughly 25 degrees away from the farthest major metro area I can receive. I plopped a path on Google Earth Pro between their station and my home, and came up with 95.06 miles to their transmitter site. I can get them just fine on my setup. The other closest metro has a transmitter which is 48.2 miles off the back side of my antenna. I can watch more than 60 channels absolutely free. Terrain in this area is a piedmont, which has modest rolling hills as well as large areas of flat land. Farther out west on the plains, line-of-sight transmission can go 150 miles or more depending on the height of the receiving antenna. Mountainous areas are the most difficult, but only a small percentage of those areas are impossible to serve with broadcast television. If you can receive FM radio there, chances are good you can receive a TV signal with the proper equipment. In fact, the vast majority of television transmission facilities are erected in rural areas.
And that's my final point; just as our forefathers knew, an outside antenna is the way to get quality in your TV signal. If you're expecting decent performance on a set of rabbit ears and you're 40 miles from the transmitter, well, there's your problem.
I live in the woods within 25 miles of two major media centers.

I easily get 60-70 channels of HD broadcast TV....unless its raining and or the wind is blowing at any appreciable speed, literately.

If the picture fading in and out with every burst of wind doesn't drive you nuts, the endless life insurance, medical apparatuses and ASPCA commercials will. Kinda tells you who watches broadcast TV anymore...lol

Solved the problem with a $29 Roku stick and an existing 1 Gig fiber connection at the house.
 
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