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  1. pantaloonz

    Loose change at spring open

    I found some lovely small metal discs in the bilge tonight after pulling the tarp off the old Girl. Boat: 1992 Four Winns Horizon OMC Cobra 5.0L cant post the pics, I see where they came from, wondering if I need to be very concerned and process to get them back in? I'm getting unknown...
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    Repack or Replace? 1992 Four Winns Trailer

    Greetings! Boat is a 1992 Four Winns Horizon 190 with Factory Trailer. Last weekend when I was parking the boat in my yard I heard a loud "snap" I thought I ran over the kids bike at first. But then every rotation I will hear the tell tale POP, (but only when under a load) I did the research...
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    Splashdown, Yes .. but Throttle not quite right

    Hi All First boat summary: 1986 Bayliner Capri 125 HP force 1254X6B So my splashdown was "mostly" successful. I got water bleeding in from somewhere.. not enough to scuttle her or anything but there is some water in there :) It started easily, but was dying going into gear, so I popped the...
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    1986 Force 125 Stiff Forward Throttle ; Normal Reverse

    Good day all, Quick History: restoring a boat that sat for 5 yrs *2yrs completed uncovered I'm near complete on the interior restoration. The engine starts, idles, and runs on the muffs. (all covered in a different thread) My last issue is a stiff forward throttle. Just as the post said; now...
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    Quick : 3 wire trim to 2 wire: blew the fuse in the wiring harness

    Hi all, EDIT: Darn it!! This should be in Electrical, I apologize. if a Mod reads this feel free to move.. sorry. MOD EDIT - Pantz - It should stay here for Force trim help. Force electrical vs boat electrical. Summary question: When converting to a two wire relay system in a 3 wire setup...
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    125 HP cranks fine without plugs

    Hi, 1986 Bayliner Capri: 125 HP Force Engine 1254X6B Starting after a 5 yr nap. Disconnected the fuel line and disconnected most of the electrical; horns/bilge anciallary items etc... Removed all the plugs and squirted a bit of WD in all 4 cylinders. Tried the key, CLICK... nothing. - I had...
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    Trim Moter Replacment and weird spark plugs

    Good day everyone, I've come into a 1986 bayliner capri. -- it was a interior nightmare, but fully gutted now (another story) I cleaned up the electrical, and was moving towards the outboard, which actually is in really great shape considering the age. Anyway the Tilt is fried, and I've...
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    Pantz at it again: rebuiding interior stern area

    Hi Gang, Hibernated through the winter. I had a lot of fun with the boat last year and she's GOING to make it at least a couple more seasons. I had to replace the gas tank last year and had some issues with water in the outdrive (resolved). So I'm taking on some upgrades to the inside. What I...
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    Small Boat - New look

    Good day all, not sure if this boat is too small to for this forum, if so, mods feel free to delete. Last weekend I picked up 2 high qualtiy fishing poles, a nice achnor, and 4 life preservers, oh yeah it came with this: Small fishing craft, no idea the manufacturer, 12' from tip of bow to...
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    Free 1996 Sea Doo GTX that had a salt water bath

    Hi Gang, Friend and colleague of mine has a 1996 Seadoo GTX... I see a lot of "BOMBADIER" logo written on it. but there is a big problem. Around 2005, someone didn't put the drain plugs in and put it in salt water off their dock. 40 Minutes later seeing the trouble it was removed and drained...
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    *ding*...You've got oil

    Oh the fun never ceases. While fixing the Fuel tank. I noticed this .. Oil from the seal and top screw(port side only) of the upper unit. I suspect this is a result of when my boat "JUMPED" off the trailer and took a little ride down the highway. I'd say it's released close to 3 to 4 table...
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    I smell a rat.. maybe it's gas..

    Hi I was emptying some water off the boat cover the past few days and noticed there was that oily look to the water flowing away from the boat. Though it didn't smell particularly oily.. As soon as I get to the back of the boat I do smell gas, and I think that gas is slowing dripping from the...
  13. pantaloonz

    Hey, there's no Foam in here! and other amateur restoration questions

    Good Morning ! Last night while troubleshooting my bogging issue (working around the tank) I peaked around best I could along the underside of my boat. What I'm seeing is sort of surprising and would like to know if others have seen this same thing. This is 24 year old boat. I would have...
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    4 Winns + 5.0L OMC -- top speed? and bogging..

    Hi Gang, I've search through several threads about engine bogging down, and I think I may be in the same position with a timing, or fuel delivery issue. I was not able to start my boat this spring until I bypassed the fuel filter/water separator completely and it started and ran fine. Now I'm...
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    Advice for my boat that took a highway skid at 55MPH

    Yes, the boot took a detour today and skidded along the highway and off the shoulder. My buddy was towing it, the winch strap strapped, and *I did not have the saftey hitch latched-- shame on me* No one was hurt, and the boat slid harmlessly off the road. I want to thank the 15 strangers who...
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    Leak and Squeak

    Hi Gang, I'm making progress on this thing! 1992 Four Winns Horizon OMC5.0L I noticed red fluid in the bilge after last outing, after some quick detective work, I noticed the output valve on the P/S reservoir was loose. (now tightened) Should I be lining that plug with silicone tape? Is there...
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    Odd sound.. two bilges? ... or other part making the sound?

    Good day all, First post in this section. OK this one is weird. I was working on some electrical issues I've been having, random lose of gauges, trim sender problems, and last time a complete loss of all electrical at the helm. 1992 OMC 5.0L Cobra - Four Winns Horizon 190 So I dug in and...
  18. pantaloonz

    Could a trim sender short take out entire main harness?

    Hi Gang Yesterday I finally replaced the trim sender in my 1990 OMC. The installation was a little rough due to the logistics of it all but I got it all connected and it actually worked (I was a little surprised) We took it out, started a little hard (hadnt run for 2 weeks) but otherwise...
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    To Trim or not to Trim.. that's the $130.00 question

    Hi there! So I pulled the trim sender and did some tests. in the relaxed full open position reads full up on the gauge When I manually push the lever all the way till it doesn't go any further. gauge reads full down. The two problems: 1.) The sender seems like it's bad, based on these down n...
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    1992 Four Winns Horizon 190 OMC5.0L Need Trim Sender ID help et al..

    Hi I'm very sorry but I do not have the engine model or serial number as the engine plate is no longer discernable. What I do have are three pictures. Starboard side, this appears to my untrained eye to be the trim sender.. it looks different from every one I've seen.. but is does have a...
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