115 Volts drop when trying to start

banetranch

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I have a 78 115hp Johnson, it was running great, then it sat for a week. I have checked the battery the starter, and the cables. What it does, it turns over and the volts drop to 7.4v not enough to start the engine. I pulled out the 4 plugs it turns but not very strong. Less when the plugs are in. The brushes are good in the starter and the cables have been all replaced with the battery. Any advise I could use, I would appreciate it, thanks
 

JB

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

Exactly where are you measuring that voltage?
 

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

If you are measuring as low as 7.4 volts actually between the battery posts then very likely your battery is discharged or dead.

If you are measuring anywhere else then there is very likely a bad connection between there and the battery. Don't forget the negative connections.
 

banetranch

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

I am measuring it from the positive side of the starter, I am at 12v until the bendix kicks in on the fly wheel then it drops around 7v.
 

banetranch

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

I forgot to add that I have used a new battery to jump the starter direct and the flywheel drags at the same pace, assuming the volts are droppiing? any help on this, I am thinking the worst maybe something internal in the engine, but I sure dont want to go there,
 

wilde1j

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

You replaced the ground cables also?
 

R.Johnson

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

If you jumped direct to the starter with a known good battery, you have a bad starter, or an internal drag in the engine, or gearcase. Take the starter off the engine, and jump direct. See what the rpm is.The starter should spin like a router motor.
 

ezeke

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

Very likely that the battery cables are bad; they corrode inside the sheathing.

If you have a DC voltmeter you can easily isolate the resistance using a voltage drop test as follows:

So, put your positive voltmeter lead on the battery positive terminal and the voltmeter negative lead on the large incoming solenoid/battery terminal post and hit the starter switch. If the voltage meter reads more than .3 volts, the battery cable is bad, corroded or has a bad connection.

Next, connect the voltmeter negative lead to the outgoing large solenoid post and the positive voltmeter lead to the incoming large solenoid post while cranking the starter briefly. If the voltmeter reads greater than .2 volts, the solenoid is bad, corroded or has a bad connection.

Next, connect the positive voltmeter lead to the outgoing large solenoid post and the negative voltmeter lead to the starter positive post and hit the starter switch. A reading of over .2 volts indicates a bad wire between the solenoid and the starter.

Lastly, connect the negative battery post to the negative voltmeter lead and the positive voltmeter lead to the engine block and crank the engine. A reading of greater than .3 volts indicates a bad negative cable, corrosion or a bad cable connection.

The idea is that normally when you put both leads of a voltmeter on the same side of a circuit you should get no reading. If you have a reading, more voltage is passing through the voltmeter than through the circuit.

 

banetranch

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

Great guys, I really thank you all for your suggestions, I will start analyzing in the morning, you all have been here before, its mind bogaling. wish me luck and I will let you know the results, thanks again!
 

banetranch

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Re: 115 Volts drop when trying to start

Result was the battery was not fully charged, we had a heavy rain which ran the bilge pump o and off, i was unaware of the heavy rain. Anyways i installed trickel charge 5watts to keep the battery fully charged. Thanks everyone
 
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