150 FastStrike surges and has no RPM

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I have a 1995 Johnson FastStrike 150 that developed a surge at all speeds and won't reach top speed. I also noticed the tach doesn't work. Any help will be appreciated.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 150 FastStrike surges and has no RPM

Surging? A slow surge would indicate a fuel problem, a leak somewhere allowing air to enter the system, a slight restriction, failing fuel pump, something of that nature. A instantanous and sudden change of rpm would indicate a ignition problem, water intermitently entering the cylinder(s) via a slightly worn head gasket, etc. Which type problem are you experiencing?

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those watercooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35amp charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficent way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disasterous consequences.
 

ineedacottage

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Re: 150 FastStrike surges and has no RPM

I was also told that I could measure the volts ? i think with multimeter at the battery when underway and if it is higher than 12.7 or so then the regulator/recitifier is ok? My tach was acting funny too, but the motor sounds normal. It would rev up, bounce around and slowly drop. If I played with the trim it would get to around 4500 and then drop. Now it is totally dead. It does not move at all. I have not checked the volts since it died, but when it was acting funny the battery readings were good. Is there anything else I should check?

Thanks.
 
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Re: 150 FastStrike surges and has no RPM

Joe said:
Surging? A slow surge would indicate a fuel problem, a leak somewhere allowing air to enter the system, a slight restriction, failing fuel pump, something of that nature. A instantanous and sudden change of rpm would indicate a ignition problem, water intermitently entering the cylinder(s) via a slightly worn head gasket, etc. Which type problem are you experiencing?

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those watercooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35amp charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficent way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disasterous consequences.

:'(
 
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Re: 150 FastStrike surges and has no RPM

:'(I troubleshot the regulator and found it to be bad. It was replaced and the tach now works fine. However, the engine still surges at speed and won't reach full throttle nor tach rpm. What used to run 60 + mph and tach out at 5000 to 5500 rpm will now only run 50 and tach out at 4500 rpm. I'm now looking at the fuel system for air leaks and obstruction. Sound right to you?

Thanks again for all those who help.
 
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