150 XR4 Idle solutions

mogfisher

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 13, 2009
Messages
237
Hey guys. I love my XR4 for the most part but one thing I've always been annoyed by is that I have to sit at the dock for a good 10 minutes before I can get the boat in gear because it will stall at idle speed until it's been running for a while. Once this beast is warm, it screams and idles just fine. My only complaint is having to warm up so damn long. If I'm fast enough, I can drop the high idle lever and get it into gear before it stalls and then just putt putt out of the channel but I hate doing that because I know I'm putting a heavy shock load on the lower unit. I wait until it slows as much as I can, but it still hurts.

History on the motor. I got it with 2 bad cylinders so I rebuilt it completely. The rebuild included all new bleed valves, their hoses, all new electronics, and a full rebuild of each carb along with the standard pistons, rings etc. I bought the gauge to set up TDC properly (through the spark plug hole) and have done a Link-n-sync a few times. I'm fairly confident that I'm set up correctly with that although I do not remember numbers. This condition has existed from day one of the rebuild. Although when I start it on muffs in the drive, I can drop it to idle pretty much immediately.

My thoughts. For the rebuild I ditched the "advance module" per the recommendations on here. I know that part of it's job is to regulate idle speed. I wonder if adding one back might help. Is there one that simply controls idle and wont grenade the motor at high RPM if it fails. When setting the timing, I did use the values I found on here that you would use when the module is removed and not the standard values.

Any help is appreciated. I searched for a while but didn't find a discussion about the advance module in regards to this. I've been spoiled by the start and go of my etec on my other boat. I know it will never be like that, but I cant imagine this is just how boating was back then.
 

Dukedog

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
3,439
try changin' tha "idle timing" a tad (10/32 screw on timin' arm).. with it trimed level, in tha water, in gear with a load on tha motor.. can be done still on tha trailer... degrees don't mater... jus adjust it to make you and tha motor happy..........

forget tha module.....
 

mogfisher

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 13, 2009
Messages
237
Will that change the warm idle as well as cold? The warm idle is perfectly fine once it warms up. If this wont effect that, then I'm all for it.
 

Dukedog

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
3,439
probably, but ya never know with a merc... seems like every one of 'em have their own little quirks, especially tha carb motors.. did you replace/rebuild tha fuel pump?
 

Dukedog

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
3,439
what tilt position is tha motor when its "warmin' up"?.. once started it needs ta be at least level or trimed slightly up... this helps with a cold motor "loadin' up" with fuel.

what rpm is idle when warm?
 
Last edited:

mogfisher

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 13, 2009
Messages
237
When I did the rebuild I did everything, including the fuel pump. The gear for the oil pump was stripped so I ditched that and I premix now. All CDI electronics. Stator, trigger, switch boxes, voltage reg. The whole deal.

Usually I have it trimmed all in. Maybe that's part of the issue.
 

Dukedog

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
3,439
try it.. tha carb motors seem ta like doin' that... it lets tha bleed system take better care of tha puddlin' in front of tha reeds at cold idle.....

tha XR 4 is merc's first attempt at a steel sleeve 2.4.. sometimes they had trouble gettin' tha sleeve and ports lined up jus right and some did have a small problem of 'em turnin' justa bit... this can cause a very slight problem but not enough ta notice on most XR 4's
 

mogfisher

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 13, 2009
Messages
237
I'll give it a shot for sure. My lakes are still frozen so it will be a while but we will see. I was mostly wondering if I should try and find that module.
 

Dukedog

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
3,439
leave it off... they kinda get a bad rap with tha failure thing... lot more really old motors still runnin' with 'em than without 'em.. jus that they aren't really necessary and "could" cause a problem jus like any other part on it...... jmo
 
Top